Is "Covid related" like "smoking related"?

[n2ratfishin]

Per google about 7,700 people pass away in America everyday. Most of the deaths we see reported with Covid say "Covid related". I know as a smoker ANYTHING that is wrong with me gets the "smoker" stamp applied.

I guess my question is are 8,700+ people passing now, or just how close to the average are we? My mom is in terrible health laying in a nursing home. I have no doubt if her or her husband gets this it'll be the end for them. Mom has lost all her will to live, Covid has nothing to do with her mindset. She just has zero quality of life. There is a positive patient in her home. They are isolating them there vs the hospital.

This has to be tough time for medical providers. My hats off to you all!

[grout-scout]

Per google about 7,700 people pass away in America everyday. Most of the deaths we see reported with Covid say "Covid related". I know as a smoker ANYTHING that is wrong with me gets the "smoker" stamp applied.

I guess my question is are 8,700+ people passing now, or just how close to the average are we? My mom is in terrible health laying in a nursing home. I have no doubt if her or her husband gets this it'll be the end for them. Mom has lost all her will to live, Covid has nothing to do with her mindset. She just has zero quality of life. There is a positive patient in her home. They are isolating them there vs the hospital.

This has to be tough time for medical providers. My hats off to you all!

I had the same question, are more people dying daily now or the same number, just by a different labeled cause.

[D.O.C. 989]

While quality of life is very important, I cannot fathom dieing from not being able to breathe. It has to be an agonizing way to die. Maybe i'm wrong and death comes quickly but it sure sounds like there is a lot of terrible suffering.

[retiredmechanic]

While quality of life is very important, I cannot fathom dieing from not being able to breathe. It has to be an agonizing way to die. Maybe i'm wrong and death comes quickly but it sure sounds like there is a lot of terrible suffering.

My MIL passed from lung cancer 35 or so years ago. Don't ever want to see some one struggle to breathe again.

[grout-scout]

While quality of life is very important, I cannot fathom dieing from not being able to breathe. It has to be an agonizing way to die. Maybe i'm wrong and death comes quickly but it sure sounds like there is a lot of terrible suffering.

My grandpa died from colon cancer for 6 months in a nursing home. He went from running tractors, dozers & chainsaws to being bed ridden in a short time frame. Death is rarely quick and painless. There comes a point, where they are laying there suffering, that you pray they could just move on.

[Dixie-Raven]

Apparently some higher ups are trying to lump any cause of death as related to the virus even if the underlying illness is the likely cause. This is to make available more federal funding I heard. Since if I say any more than this it would be considered political so I will leave it at that but you can go look at some pod-casts from Candice Owens for further information.

[Al from Canada]

I would think now would be an excellent time for any smoker to quit. Your lungs aren't 100% to begin with and getting Covid-19 would most likely be more serious.

[grout-scout]

Apparently some higher ups are trying to lump any cause of death as related to the virus even if the underlying illness is the likely cause. This is to make available more federal funding I heard. Since if I say any more than this it would be considered political so I will leave it at that but you can go look at some pod-casts from Candice Owens for further information.

It’s very plausible, making games out of it.

[Jeff La]

Covid related means the cause of death is listed as something else but the covid virus was part of the cause.

[rb]

Apparently some higher ups are trying to lump any cause of death as related to the virus even if the underlying illness is the likely cause. This is to make available more federal funding I heard. Since if I say any more than this it would be considered political so I will leave it at that but you can go look at some pod-casts from Candice Owens for further information.

Saw where 7 people at a Hospice house were tested positive and died and they reported it as C-19 death. If they were at a hospice house they were there because they were terminal for something else

[bilgerat]

My MIL passed from lung cancer 35 or so years ago. Don't ever want to see some one struggle to breathe again.

A nasty case of bronchitis almost 10 years ago that had me convinced I wouldn’t make it through the night is what scared me away from smoking for good. Took me almost 3 weeks on a nebulizer to get me going again. Stopped cold turkey and never looked back.

[n2ratfishin]

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm

Per the CDC over 2.8 million pass on each year in America.

Influenza and Pneumonia: 55,672 a year was the number before Covid.

I have never seen anything as contagious, but...it would be nice if the numbers were reported in some sort of context.

[Jeff Hahn]

Experts differentiate between "cause of death" and underlying cause of death." As I read it, if someone has lung cancer and gets COVID-19 and dies, the COVID-19 may be the "cause of death," as they would have lived longer had they not contracted the COVID-19. That disease was the "immediate spark" that caused their death. But, the lung cancer was the "underlying cause of death," as it was so debilitating to their health that it left them open to contracting another deadly disease, like the COVID-19 that killed them.

[Bassman Ia.]

While quality of life is very important, I cannot fathom dieing from not being able to breathe. It has to be an agonizing way to die. Maybe i'm wrong and death comes quickly but it sure sounds like there is a lot of terrible suffering.

2009 six of us went up to Canada to fish. The cabin was about 80 yards uphill from the lake, my brother had to keep stopping on the way up because he was running out of air. When we get back home he sees my pulmonologist to find out what is wrong. Pulmonary Fibrosis, every breath one takes the lungs crack and form a scar tissue, eventually the lungs can not expand or contract, and the person suffocates. 2010 he was put on oxygen, 2012 he was put on liquid oxygen, 2013 he died, he was sitting in the kitchen and told his wife he could not catch his breath. He put his head on her shoulder and that was the end.

Terrible way to end life.

[LewStulePH.D.]

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Using these or like 'smoking blends' will get the user to release built-up phlegm. When I was a cop, I used "Shaman Smoking Blend" to get the phlegm out of my lungs. white box with red writing. It makes You cough...

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[badbaggerHD]

I had the same question, are more people dying daily now or the same number, just by a different labeled cause.

Say what, cant be

[FowlZurk]

Not just smokers but overweight, diabetics, and generally people that haven’t eaten properly or taken good care of themselves are at extreme risk. On a positive note, I’m seeing many people exercising now and hopefully keep doing so.

[mactlman]

i believe all deaths now are mostly be counted as covid related deaths to keeps the numbers up where they projected them to be from the models.

[wareagle24]

I would think now would be an excellent time for any smoker to quit. Your lungs aren't 100% to begin with and getting Covid-19 would most likely be more serious.

Good point Al.

[fastr19]

My wife was a long time smoker...about 40 years. She did stop but the combination of asthma and smoking destroyed her lungs. She is diagnosed with copd and must use oxygen at night. Whenever she has a bronchial flare it's frightening to watch her stuggle to breath. Covid 19 would kill her without a doubt. We just stay pretty much confined now until things are resolved.