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    We had the same issues back in the 1980s with Japan, but the numbers were way more managble

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    and even if your hypothesis is true...………………………...please divide 70-90 trillion bye 160 million working Americans (paying taxes) not on subsidies .

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    Every American on subsidies raises that amount each and every year astronomically

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBHUFFY View Post
    Estimated US population is 331,002,651 according to Google search. I'm not a math wiz, the $2,000,000,000,000 stimulus bill, if passed to the population, would have given $6042.25 to every man, woman, and child living.

    If it were all given to people...huge amounts of that will be going to corporations to make there CEO’s richer...I mean bail them out
    Money can't buy happiness but it can buy fishing baits and that's about the same thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Komatoz521 View Post
    If it were all given to people...huge amounts of that will be going to corporations to make there CEO’s richer...I mean bail them out

    And I can almost guarantee that is where the fund will wind up.

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    Wonder, out of the 171,005,651 or so non working, were brought up to suck the teet instead of work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBHUFFY View Post
    Wonder, out of the 171,005,651 or so non working, were brought up to suck the teet instead of work?
    With information so readily available:

    PHP Code:
    United States Labor Force Statistics
    Seasonally Adjusted  
    (in thousands)
    1978 Present
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    Month

                     Year    Labor Force   Employed  Unemployed Unemployment Rate
    March    2020    162
    ,913    155,772    7,140    4.4
    February    2020    164
    ,546    158,759    5,787    3.5
    January    2020    164
    ,606    158,714    5,892    3.6
    December    2019    164
    ,556    158,803    5,753    3.5
    November    2019    164
    ,347    158,536    5,811    3.5
    October    2019    164
    ,401    158,544    5,857    3.6
    September    2019    164
    ,051    158,298    5,753    3.5
    August    2019    163
    ,894    157,895    5,999    3.7
    July    2019    163
    ,373    157,346    6,027    3.7
    June    2019    163
    ,133    157,148    5,985    3.7
    May    2019    162
    ,782    156,844    5,938    3.6
    April    2019    162
    ,546    156,696    5,850    3.6
    March    2019    162
    ,935    156,741    6,194    3.8
    February    2019    163
    ,047    156,866    6,181    3.8
    January    2019    163
    ,142    156,627    6,516    4.0
    December    2018    163
    ,111    156,825    6,286    3.9
    November    2018    162
    ,662    156,628    6,034    3.7
    October    2018    162
    ,605    156,482    6,123    3.8
    September    2018    162
    ,078    156,032    6,045    3.7
    August    2018    161
    ,768    155,601    6,167    3.8
    July    2018    162
    ,173    155,993    6,180    3.8
    June    2018    162
    ,269    155,750    6,519    4.0
    May    2018    161
    ,874    155,665    6,209    3.8
    April    2018    161
    ,742    155,324    6,418    4.0
    March    2018    161
    ,684    155,191    6,493    4.0
    February    2018    161
    ,783    155,142    6,641    4.1
    January    2018    161
    ,068    154,486    6,582    4.1
    December    2017    160
    ,538    153,977    6,561    4.1
    November    2017    160
    ,510    153,813    6,697    4.2
    October    2017    160
    ,378    153,779    6,599    4.1
    September    2017    161
    ,212    154,371    6,841    4.2
    August    2017    160
    ,690    153,593    7,097    4.4
    July    2017    160
    ,339    153,471    6,867    4.3
    June    2017    160
    ,232    153,299    6,933    4.3
    May    2017    160
    ,060    153,001    7,059    4.4
    April    2017    160
    ,309    153,224    7,085    4.4
    March    2017    160
    ,066    152,978    7,088    4.4
    February    2017    159
    ,767    152,368    7,399    4.6
    January    2017    159
    ,647    152,129    7,518    4.7
    December    2016    159
    ,710    152,216    7,495    4.7
    November    2016    159
    ,551    152,063    7,488    4.7
    October    2016    159
    ,734    151,907    7,827    4.9
    September    2016    159
    ,817    151,850    7,967    5.0
    August    2016    159
    ,579    151,770    7,809    4.9
    July    2016    159
    ,123    151,465    7,658    4.8
    June    2016    158
    ,973    151,187    7,786    4.9
    May    2016    158
    ,787    151,119    7,668    4.8
    April    2016    158
    ,981    151,006    7,975    5.0
    March    2016    159
    ,103    151,157    7,945    5.0
    February    2016    158
    ,653    150,908    7,746    4.9
    January    2016    158
    ,342    150,621    7,721    4.9
    December    2015    158
    ,035    150,128    7,907    5.0
    November    2015    157
    ,463    149,463    8,000    5.1
    October    2015    157
    ,167    149,246    7,922    5.0
    September    2015    156
    ,733    148,826    7,907    5.0
    August    2015    157
    ,172    149,181    7,992    5.1
    July    2015    156
    ,997    148,830    8,167    5.2
    June    2015    157
    ,062    148,816    8,247    5.3
    May    2015    157
    ,651    148,817    8,834    5.6
    April    2015    157
    ,060    148,511    8,550    5.4
    March    2015    156
    ,643    148,128    8,515    5.4
    February    2015    156
    ,644    148,045    8,599    5.5
    January    2015    157
    ,030    148,145    8,885    5.7
    December    2014    156
    ,332    147,615    8,717    5.6
    November    2014    156
    ,494    147,404    9,090    5.8
    October    2014    156
    ,417    147,427    8,990    5.7
    September    2014    156
    ,040    146,778    9,262    5.9
    August    2014    156
    ,130    146,530    9,599    6.1
    July    2014    156
    ,007    146,399    9,608    6.2
    June    2014    155
    ,707    146,247    9,460    6.1
    May    2014    155
    ,684    145,825    9,859    6.3
    April    2014    155
    ,369    145,667    9,702    6.2
    March    2014    156
    ,028    145,648    10,380    6.7
    February    2014    155
    ,483    145,134    10,349    6.7
    January    2014    155
    ,352    145,150    10,202    6.6
    December    2013    155
    ,182    144,778    10,404    6.7
    November    2013    155
    ,265    144,479    10,787    6.9
    October    2013    154
    ,673    143,537    11,136    7.2
    September    2013    155
    ,687    144,418    11,270    7.2
    August    2013    155
    ,605    144,326    11,279    7.2
    July    2013    155
    ,599    144,264    11,335    7.3
    June    2013    155
    ,749    143,999    11,751    7.5
    May    2013    155
    ,536    143,882    11,654    7.5
    April    2013    155
    ,394    143,635    11,760    7.6
    March    2013    155
    ,005    143,316    11,689    7.5
    February    2013    155
    ,312    143,362    11,950    7.7
    January    2013    155
    ,763    143,292    12,471    8.0
    December    2012    155
    ,628    143,330    12,298    7.9
    November    2012    155
    ,338    143,333    12,005    7.7
    October    2012    155
    ,554    143,431    12,124    7.8
    September    2012    155
    ,160    143,044    12,115    7.8
    August    2012    154
    ,763    142,291    12,471    8.1
    July    2012    154
    ,948    142,292    12,656    8.2
    June    2012    155
    ,083    142,391    12,692    8.2
    May    2012    154
    ,866    142,206    12,660    8.2
    April    2012    154
    ,545    141,899    12,646    8.2
    March    2012    154
    ,749    142,036    12,713    8.2
    February    2012    154
    ,671    141,858    12,813    8.3
    January    2012    154
    ,381    141,584    12,797    8.3
    December    2011    153
    ,995    140,902    13,093    8.5
    November    2011    154
    ,128    140,826    13,302    8.6
    October    2011    153
    ,961    140,368    13,594    8.8
    September    2011    154
    ,131    140,183    13,948    9.0
    August    2011    153
    ,760    139,942    13,818    9.0
    July    2011    153
    ,288    139,524    13,763    9.0
    June    2011    153
    ,346    139,384    13,962    9.1
    May    2011    153
    ,479    139,624    13,855    9.0
    April    2011    153
    ,543    139,586    13,957    9.1
    March    2011    153
    ,376    139,639    13,737    9.0
    February    2011    153
    ,214    139,394    13,820    9.0
    January    2011    153
    ,263    139,250    14,013    9.1
    December    2010    153
    ,650    139,301    14,348    9.3
    November    2010    154
    ,125    139,044    15,081    9.8
    October    2010    153
    ,635    139,119    14,516    9.4
    September    2010    153
    ,975    139,396    14,579    9.5
    August    2010    154
    ,086    139,438    14,648    9.5
    July    2010    153
    ,691    139,179    14,512    9.4
    June    2010    153
    ,616    139,141    14,474    9.4
    May    2010    154
    ,091    139,241    14,849    9.6
    April    2010    154
    ,622    139,297    15,325    9.9
    March    2010    153
    ,954    138,751    15,202    9.9
    February    2010    153
    ,694    138,581    15,113    9.8
    January    2010    153
    ,484    138,438    15,046    9.8
    December    2009    153
    ,111    138,013    15,098    9.9
    November    2009    153
    ,878    138,659    15,219    9.9
    October    2009    153
    ,784    138,432    15,352    10.0
    September    2009    153
    ,827    138,818    15,009    9.8
    August    2009    154
    ,307    139,492    14,814    9.6
    July    2009    154
    ,502    139,901    14,601    9.5
    June    2009    154
    ,716    140,009    14,707    9.5
    May    2009    154
    ,747    140,248    14,499    9.4
    April    2009    154
    ,509    140,656    13,853    9.0
    March    2009    154
    ,133    140,707    13,426    8.7
    February    2009    154
    ,538    141,640    12,898    8.3
    January    2009    154
    ,210    142,152    12,058    7.8
    December    2008    154
    ,655    143,369    11,286    7.3
    November    2008    154
    ,639    144,100    10,538    6.8
    October    2008    154
    ,876    144,802    10,074    6.5
    September    2008    154
    ,570    145,076    9,494    6.1
    August    2008    154
    ,641    145,203    9,438    6.1
    July    2008    154
    ,469    145,532    8,937    5.8
    June    2008    154
    ,313    145,737    8,575    5.6
    May    2008    154
    ,303    145,908    8,395    5.4
    April    2008    153
    ,769    146,132    7,637    5.0
    March    2008    153
    ,908    146,086    7,822    5.1
    February    2008    153
    ,653    146,156    7,497    4.9
    January    2008    154
    ,063    146,378    7,685    5.0
    December    2007    153
    ,918    146,273    7,645    5.0
    November    2007    153
    ,835    146,595    7,240    4.7
    October    2007    153
    ,183    145,946    7,237    4.7
    September    2007    153
    ,414    146,244    7,170    4.7
    August    2007    152
    ,749    145,682    7,067    4.6
    July    2007    153
    ,054    145,905    7,149    4.7
    June    2007    153
    ,041    146,063    6,979    4.6
    May    2007    152
    ,670    145,903    6,766    4.4
    April    2007    152
    ,435    145,586    6,850    4.5
    March    2007    153
    ,051    146,320    6,731    4.4
    February    2007    152
    ,983    146,057    6,927    4.5
    January    2007    153
    ,144    146,028    7,116    4.6
    December    2006    152
    ,732    145,970    6,762    4.4
    November    2006    152
    ,406    145,534    6,872    4.5
    October    2006    152
    ,041    145,314    6,727    4.4
    September    2006    151
    ,662    144,815    6,847    4.5
    August    2006    151
    ,716    144,625    7,091    4.7
    July    2006    151
    ,377    144,202    7,175    4.7
    June    2006    151
    ,354    144,353    7,001    4.6
    May    2006    151
    ,069    144,089    6,980    4.6
    April    2006    150
    ,881    143,761    7,120    4.7
    March    2006    150
    ,813    143,741    7,072    4.7
    February    2006    150
    ,641    143,457    7,184    4.8
    January    2006    150
    ,214    143,150    7,064    4.7
    December    2005    150
    ,030    142,752    7,279    4.9
    November    2005    150
    ,065    142,499    7,566    5.0
    October    2005    150
    ,001    142,548    7,453    5.0
    September    2005    149
    ,954    142,401    7,553    5.0
    August    2005    149
    ,779    142,434    7,345    4.9
    July    2005    149
    ,432    142,026    7,406    5.0
    June    2005    149
    ,238    141,714    7,524    5.0
    May    2005    149
    ,261    141,609    7,651    5.1
    April    2005    148
    ,926    141,254    7,672    5.2
    March    2005    148
    ,391    140,654    7,737    5.2
    February    2005    148
    ,364    140,385    7,980    5.4
    January    2005    148
    ,029    140,245    7,784    5.3
    December    2004    148
    ,059    140,125    7,934    5.4
    November    2004    148
    ,162    140,231    7,932    5.4
    October    2004    147
    ,793    139,732    8,061    5.5
    September    2004    147
    ,415    139,487    7,927    5.4
    August    2004    147
    ,564    139,573    7,990    5.4
    July    2004    147
    ,692    139,556    8,136    5.5
    June    2004    147
    ,460    139,174    8,286    5.6
    May    2004    147
    ,065    138,852    8,212    5.6
    April    2004    146
    ,850    138,680    8,170    5.6
    March    2004    146
    ,944    138,453    8,491    5.8
    February    2004    146
    ,709    138,542    8,167    5.6
    January    2004    146
    ,842    138,472    8,370    5.7
    December    2003    146
    ,729    138,411    8,317    5.7
    November    2003    147
    ,000    138,424    8,576    5.8
    October    2003    146
    ,716    137,984    8,732    6.0
    September    2003    146
    ,530    137,609    8,921    6.1
    August    2003    146
    ,445    137,549    8,896    6.1
    July    2003    146
    ,485    137,474    9,011    6.2
    June    2003    147
    ,056    137,790    9,266    6.3
    May    2003    146
    ,500    137,544    8,957    6.1
    April    2003    146
    ,474    137,633    8,842    6.0
    March    2003    146
    ,022    137,434    8,588    5.9
    February    2003    146
    ,100    137,482    8,618    5.9
    January    2003    145
    ,937    137,417    8,520    5.8
    December    2002    145
    ,066    136,426    8,640    6.0
    November    2002    145
    ,041    136,521    8,520    5.9
    October    2002    145
    ,314    137,008    8,307    5.7
    September    2002    145
    ,552    137,302    8,251    5.7
    August    2002    145
    ,009    136,705    8,304    5.7
    July    2002    144
    ,803    136,413    8,390    5.8
    June    2002    144
    ,808    136,415    8,393    5.8
    May    2002    144
    ,938    136,539    8,399    5.8
    April    2002    144
    ,725    136,126    8,599    5.9
    March    2002    144
    ,481    136,177    8,304    5.7
    February    2002    144
    ,653    136,438    8,215    5.7
    January    2002    143
    ,883    135,701    8,182    5.7
    December    2001    144
    ,305    136,047    8,258    5.7
    November    2001    144
    ,240    136,238    8,003    5.5
    October    2001    144
    ,086    136,392    7,694    5.3
    September    2001    143
    ,989    136,846    7,142    5.0
    August    2001    143
    ,284    136,241    7,042    4.9
    July    2001    143
    ,654    137,071    6,583    4.6
    June    2001    143
    ,357    136,873    6,484    4.5
    May    2001    143
    ,318    137,092    6,226    4.3
    April    2001    143
    ,569    137,299    6,271    4.4
    March    2001    143
    ,924    137,783    6,141    4.3
    February    2001    143
    ,701    137,612    6,089    4.2
    January    2001    143
    ,800    137,778    6,023    4.2
    December    2000    143
    ,248    137,614    5,634    3.9
    November    2000    142
    ,962    137,322    5,639    3.9
    October    2000    142
    ,622    137,088    5,534    3.9
    September    2000    142
    ,518    136,893    5,625    3.9
    August    2000    142
    ,514    136,662    5,853    4.1
    July    2000    142
    ,278    136,531    5,747    4.0
    June    2000    142
    ,591    136,940    5,651    4.0
    May    2000    142
    ,388    136,630    5,758    4.0
    April    2000    142
    ,751    137,270    5,481    3.8
    March    2000    142
    ,434    136,701    5,733    4.0
    February    2000    142
    ,456    136,598    5,858    4.1
    January    2000    142
    ,267    136,559    5,708    4.0
    December    1999    140
    ,177    134,523    5,653    4.0
    November    1999    140
    ,025    134,309    5,716    4.1
    October    1999    139
    ,771    133,993    5,778    4.1
    September    1999    139
    ,622    133,707    5,915    4.2
    August    1999    139
    ,430    133,591    5,838    4.2
    July    1999    139
    ,439    133,414    6,025    4.3
    June    1999    139
    ,329    133,378    5,951    4.3
    May    1999    139
    ,107    133,311    5,796    4.2
    April    1999    138
    ,959    132,955    6,004    4.3
    March    1999    138
    ,730    132,947    5,783    4.2
    February    1999    138
    ,967    132,856    6,111    4.4
    January    1999    139
    ,003    133,027    5,976    4.3
    December    1998    138
    ,634    132,602    6,032    4.4
    November    1998    138
    ,381    132,280    6,100    4.4
    October    1998    138
    ,279    131,999    6,280    4.5
    September    1998    138
    ,286    131,986    6,300    4.6
    August    1998    137
    ,570    131,390    6,179    4.5
    July    1998    137
    ,588    131,329    6,259    4.5
    June    1998    137
    ,455    131,244    6,212    4.5
    May    1998    137
    ,372    131,325    6,047    4.4
    April    1998    137
    ,150    131,209    5,941    4.3
    March    1998    137
    ,236    130,814    6,422    4.7
    February    1998    137
    ,112    130,807    6,306    4.6
    January    1998    137
    ,095    130,726    6,368    4.6
    December    1997    137
    ,155    130,679    6,476    4.7
    November    1997    136
    ,961    130,653    6,308    4.6
    October    1997    136
    ,633    130,179    6,454    4.7
    September    1997    136
    ,675    130,019    6,656    4.9
    August    1997    136
    ,618    130,010    6,608    4.8
    July    1997    136
    ,477    129,822    6,655    4.9
    June    1997    136
    ,211    129,412    6,799    5.0
    May    1997    136
    ,119    129,464    6,655    4.9
    April    1997    136
    ,016    129,143    6,873    5.1
    March    1997    135
    ,891    128,891    7,000    5.2
    February    1997    135
    ,400    128,298    7,102    5.2
    January    1997    135
    ,456    128,298    7,158    5.3
    December    1996    135
    ,113    127,860    7,253    5.4
    November    1996    135
    ,007    127,771    7,236    5.4
    October    1996    134
    ,921    127,890    7,031    5.2
    September    1996    134
    ,515    127,536    6,979    5.2
    August    1996    134
    ,054    127,172    6,882    5.1
    July    1996    134
    ,284    126,947    7,337    5.5
    June    1996    133
    ,697    126,602    7,095    5.3
    May    1996    133
    ,667    126,244    7,423    5.6
    April    1996    133
    ,409    125,994    7,415    5.6
    March    1996    133
    ,180    125,862    7,318    5.5
    February    1996    132
    ,952    125,639    7,313    5.5
    January    1996    132
    ,616    125,125    7,491    5.6
    December    1995    132
    ,511    125,088    7,423    5.6
    November    1995    132
    ,614    125,188    7,426    5.6
    October    1995    132
    ,716    125,388    7,328    5.5
    September    1995    132
    ,611    125,133    7,478    5.6
    August    1995    132
    ,336    124,852    7,484    5.7
    July    1995    132
    ,343    124,816    7,527    5.7
    June    1995    131
    ,949    124,522    7,427    5.6
    May    1995    131
    ,851    124,421    7,430    5.6
    April    1995    132
    ,590    124,945    7,645    5.8
    March    1995    132
    ,108    124,955    7,153    5.4
    February    1995    132
    ,115    124,928    7,187    5.4
    January    1995    132
    ,038    124,663    7,375    5.6
    December    1994    131
    ,951    124,721    7,230    5.5
    November    1994    131
    ,891    124,516    7,375    5.6
    October    1994    131
    ,744    124,112    7,632    5.8
    September    1994    131
    ,421    123,687    7,734    5.9
    August    1994    131
    ,275    123,342    7,933    6.0
    July    1994    130
    ,652    122,706    7,946    6.1
    June    1994    130
    ,561    122,634    7,927    6.1
    May    1994    130
    ,779    122,864    7,915    6.1
    April    1994    130
    ,621    122,290    8,331    6.4
    March    1994    130
    ,400    121,930    8,470    6.5
    February    1994    130
    ,669    122,086    8,583    6.6
    January    1994    130
    ,596    121,966    8,630    6.6
    December    1993    129
    ,941    121,464    8,477    6.5
    November    1993    129
    ,711    121,169    8,542    6.6
    October    1993    129
    ,573    120,823    8,750    6.8
    September    1993    129
    ,268    120,554    8,714    6.7
    August    1993    129
    ,619    120,856    8,763    6.8
    July    1993    129
    ,397    120,467    8,930    6.9
    June    1993    129
    ,411    120,290    9,121    7.0
    May    1993    129
    ,264    120,115    9,149    7.1
    April    1993    128
    ,584    119,474    9,110    7.1
    March    1993    128
    ,598    119,542    9,056    7.0
    February    1993    128
    ,458    119,275    9,183    7.1
    January    1993    128
    ,400    119,075    9,325    7.3
    December    1992    128
    ,554    118,997    9,557    7.4
    November    1992    128
    ,441    118,876    9,565    7.4
    October    1992    128
    ,026    118,628    9,398    7.3
    September    1992    128
    ,501    118,720    9,781    7.6
    August    1992    128
    ,613    118,826    9,787    7.6
    July    1992    128
    ,563    118,713    9,850    7.7
    June    1992    128
    ,459    118,419    10,040    7.8
    May    1992    128
    ,119    118,375    9,744    7.6
    April    1992    127
    ,841    118,426    9,415    7.4
    March    1992    127
    ,604    118,144    9,460    7.4
    February    1992    127
    ,207    117,753    9,454    7.4
    January    1992    127
    ,261    117,978    9,283    7.3
    December    1991    126
    ,664    117,466    9,198    7.3
    November    1991    126
    ,701    117,770    8,931    7.0
    October    1991    126
    ,642    117,800    8,842    7.0
    September    1991    126
    ,650    117,928    8,722    6.9
    August    1991    126
    ,150    117,484    8,666    6.9
    July    1991    126
    ,154    117,568    8,586    6.8
    June    1991    126
    ,331    117,639    8,692    6.9
    May    1991    126
    ,176    117,440    8,736    6.9
    April    1991    126
    ,548    118,109    8,439    6.7
    March    1991    126
    ,238    117,652    8,586    6.8
    February    1991    126
    ,020    117,755    8,265    6.6
    January    1991    125
    ,955    117,940    8,015    6.4
    December    1990    126
    ,142    118,241    7,901    6.3
    November    1990    126
    ,070    118,306    7,764    6.2
    October    1990    125
    ,995    118,536    7,459    5.9
    September    1990    125
    ,892    118,524    7,368    5.9
    August    1990    125
    ,990    118,802    7,188    5.7
    July    1990    125
    ,732    118,810    6,922    5.5
    June    1990    125
    ,573    118,983    6,590    5.2
    May    1990    125
    ,893    119,151    6,742    5.4
    April    1990    125
    ,649    118,852    6,797    5.4
    March    1990    125
    ,801    119,203    6,598    5.2
    February    1990    125
    ,710    119,059    6,651    5.3
    January    1990    125
    ,833    119,081    6,752    5.4
    December    1989    124
    ,497    117,830    6,667    5.4
    November    1989    124
    ,637    117,912    6,725    5.4
    October    1989    124
    ,211    117,581    6,630    5.3
    September    1989    123
    ,944    117,354    6,590    5.3
    August    1989    124
    ,166    117,655    6,511    5.2
    July    1989    123
    ,967    117,472    6,495    5.2
    June    1989    123
    ,995    117,418    6,577    5.3
    May    1989    123
    ,474    117,099    6,375    5.2
    April    1989    123
    ,565    117,097    6,468    5.2
    March    1989    123
    ,227    117,022    6,205    5.0
    February    1989    123
    ,135    116,776    6,359    5.2
    January    1989    123
    ,390    116,708    6,682    5.4
    December    1988    122
    ,622    116,104    6,518    5.3
    November    1988    122
    ,637    116,100    6,537    5.3
    October    1988    122
    ,206    115,638    6,568    5.4
    September    1988    121
    ,960    115,356    6,604    5.4
    August    1988    122
    ,125    115,282    6,843    5.6
    July    1988    121
    ,665    115,060    6,605    5.4
    June    1988    121
    ,473    114,927    6,546    5.4
    May    1988    121
    ,071    114,292    6,779    5.6
    April    1988    121
    ,251    114,650    6,601    5.4
    March    1988    120
    ,913    114,037    6,876    5.7
    February    1988    121
    ,156    114,227    6,929    5.7
    January    1988    120
    ,969    114,016    6,953    5.7
    December    1987    120
    ,729    113,793    6,936    5.7
    November    1987    120
    ,540    113,505    7,035    5.8
    October    1987    120
    ,509    113,282    7,227    6.0
    September    1987    120
    ,011    112,909    7,102    5.9
    August    1987    120
    ,318    113,057    7,261    6.0
    July    1987    119
    ,902    112,634    7,268    6.1
    June    1987    119
    ,644    112,246    7,398    6.2
    May    1987    120
    ,008    112,434    7,574    6.3
    April    1987    119
    ,336    111,794    7,542    6.3
    March    1987    119
    ,270    111,408    7,862    6.6
    February    1987    119
    ,122    111,257    7,865    6.6
    January    1987    118
    ,845    110,953    7,892    6.6
    December    1986    118
    ,611    110,728    7,883    6.6
    November    1986    118
    ,634    110,475    8,159    6.9
    October    1986    118
    ,516    110,273    8,243    7.0
    September    1986    118
    ,395    110,085    8,310    7.0
    August    1986    118
    ,150    110,015    8,135    6.9
    July    1986    118
    ,129    109,810    8,319    7.0
    June    1986    118
    ,084    109,576    8,508    7.2
    May    1986    117
    ,528    109,089    8,439    7.2
    April    1986    117
    ,316    108,952    8,364    7.1
    March    1986    117
    ,220    108,837    8,383    7.2
    February    1986    116
    ,882    108,480    8,402    7.2
    January    1986    116
    ,682    108,887    7,795    6.7
    December    1985    116
    ,354    108,216    8,138    7.0
    November    1985    116
    ,135    108,007    8,128    7.0
    October    1985    116
    ,145    107,847    8,298    7.1
    September    1985    115
    ,905    107,657    8,248    7.1
    August    1985    115
    ,291    107,095    8,196    7.1
    July    1985    115
    ,320    106,807    8,513    7.4
    June    1985    114
    ,965    106,505    8,460    7.4
    May    1985    115
    ,234    106,932    8,302    7.2
    April    1985    115
    ,331    106,936    8,395    7.3
    March    1985    115
    ,328    106,989    8,339    7.2
    February    1985    114
    ,876    106,555    8,321    7.2
    January    1985    114
    ,725    106,302    8,423    7.3
    December    1984    114
    ,581    106,223    8,358    7.3
    November    1984    114
    ,170    105,972    8,198    7.2
    October    1984    114
    ,019    105,638    8,381    7.4
    September    1984    113
    ,857    105,490    8,367    7.3
    August    1984    113
    ,682    105,163    8,519    7.5
    July    1984    113
    ,972    105,435    8,537    7.5
    June    1984    113
    ,817    105,591    8,226    7.2
    May    1984    113
    ,649    105,193    8,456    7.4
    April    1984    113
    ,098    104,336    8,762    7.7
    March    1984    112
    ,713    103,967    8,746    7.8
    February    1984    112
    ,615    103,824    8,791    7.8
    January    1984    112
    ,209    103,201    9,008    8.0
    December    1983    112
    ,327    102,996    9,331    8.3
    November    1983    112
    ,228    102,729    9,499    8.5
    October    1983    111
    ,926    102,039    9,887    8.8
    September    1983    112
    ,298    102,016    10,282    9.2
    August    1983    112
    ,231    101,608    10,623    9.5
    July    1983    111
    ,756    101,208    10,548    9.4
    June    1983    111
    ,879    100,633    11,246    10.1
    May    1983    110
    ,796    99,642    11,154    10.1
    April    1983    110
    ,828    99,560    11,268    10.2
    March    1983    110
    ,587    99,179    11,408    10.3
    February    1983    110
    ,634    99,089    11,545    10.4
    January    1983    110
    ,695    99,161    11,534    10.4
    December    1982    111
    ,083    99,032    12,051    10.8
    November    1982    111
    ,050    99,112    11,938    10.8
    October    1982    110
    ,744    99,215    11,529    10.4
    September    1982    110
    ,721    99,504    11,217    10.1
    August    1982    110
    ,514    99,633    10,881    9.8
    July    1982    110
    ,342    99,493    10,849    9.8
    June    1982    110
    ,081    99,543    10,538    9.6
    May    1982    110
    ,451    100,116    10,335    9.4
    April    1982    109
    ,820    99,576    10,244    9.3
    March    1982    109
    ,567    99,672    9,895    9.0
    February    1982    109
    ,467    99,762    9,705    8.9
    January    1982    109
    ,089    99,692    9,397    8.6
    December    1981    108
    ,912    99,645    9,267    8.5
    November    1981    109
    ,236    100,207    9,029    8.3
    October    1981    109
    ,024    100,378    8,646    7.9
    September    1981    108
    ,294    100,064    8,230    7.6
    August    1981    108
    ,725    100,689    8,036    7.4
    July    1981    108
    ,556    100,693    7,863    7.2
    June    1981    108
    ,396    100,298    8,098    7.5
    May    1981    109
    ,222    101,048    8,174    7.5
    April    1981    108
    ,925    101,056    7,869    7.2
    March    1981    108
    ,553    100,571    7,982    7.4
    February    1981    108
    ,242    100,191    8,051    7.4
    January    1981    108
    ,026    99,955    8,071    7.5
    December    1980    107
    ,352    99,634    7,718    7.2
    November    1980    107
    ,568    99,545    8,023    7.5
    October    1980    107
    ,405    99,317    8,088    7.5
    September    1980    107
    ,098    99,077    8,021    7.5
    August    1980    107
    ,105    98,824    8,281    7.7
    July    1980    107
    ,159    98,796    8,363    7.8
    June    1980    106
    ,780    98,682    8,098    7.6
    May    1980    106
    ,929    98,945    7,984    7.5
    April    1980    106
    ,591    99,233    7,358    6.9
    March    1980    106
    ,442    99,713    6,729    6.3
    February    1980    106
    ,697    99,995    6,702    6.3
    January    1980    106
    ,562    99,879    6,683    6.3
    December    1979    106
    ,258    99,933    6,325    6.0
    November    1979    105
    ,812    99,574    6,238    5.9
    October    1979    105
    ,700    99,404    6,296    6.0
    September    1979    105
    ,530    99,340    6,190    5.9
    August    1979    105
    ,096    98,776    6,320    6.0
    July    1979    105
    ,002    99,006    5,996    5.7
    June    1979    104
    ,638    98,679    5,959    5.7
    May    1979    104
    ,171    98,331    5,840    5.6
    April    1979    104
    ,172    98,103    6,069    5.8
    March    1979    104
    ,589    98,480    6,109    5.8
    February    1979    104
    ,502    98,329    6,173    5.9
    January    1979    104
    ,057    97,948    6,109    5.9
    December    1978    103
    ,809    97,581    6,228    6.0
    November    1978    103
    ,562    97,485    6,077    5.9
    October    1978    103
    ,080    97,133    5,947    5.8
    September    1978    102
    ,795    96,670    6,125    6.0
    August    1978    102
    ,511    96,431    6,080    5.9
    July    1978    102
    ,399    96,090    6,309    6.2
    June    1978    102
    ,371    96,343    6,028    5.9
    May    1978    101
    ,896    95,769    6,127    6.0
    April    1978    101
    ,574    95,394    6,180    6.1
    March    1978    101
    ,092    94,755    6,337    6.3
    February    1978    100
    ,837    94,519    6,318    6.3
    January    1978    100
    ,873    94,384    6,489    6.4 

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    #28
    Quote Originally Posted by godsdozer View Post
    sorry, we don't owe ourselves in the current climate (last 20 years ) , we owe china the interest. Forget paying interest...…………...we are barley able to pay the interest on our national debt...…………………………………..We can continue to print (dollar billsl , although electronically which is even worse) devaluing the dollar. Once China is considered the currency of the world LOL its all over for our economy.

    China is a drop in the bucket and not even the largest foreign investor of foreign debt. I don't how or why that myth started years ago and still goes on today. Heres a good up to date breakdown

    https://www.thebalance.com/who-owns-the-u-s-national-debt-3306124


    China has been dumping our debt for a few years now to support their currency. Investors all around the world love our debt because it is the safest and currently one of the last remaining gov't issued debt with positive yields.
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    Ive mentioned this a couple times even before the virus was “known” . The fed start cranking out an extra 500 billion in cash starting 9-19 . Banks started buying up gold at unprecedented rates. Do the math people !

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    1. In order to pay down our national debt you would have to combine the GDP of China, Japan, and India.
    2. The United States owes $68,400 per citizen.
    3. The United States owes $183,000 per taxpayer.
    4. The United States currently has $125 trillion (yes, trillion) in unfunded liabilities.
    5. According to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO), the US debt held by the public will reach 100 percent of GDP in 2028.
    6. In 2008, interest on the federal debt was $253 billion. Interest for Fiscal Year (FY) 2019 is roughly 89 percent higher.
    7. For FY 2019, interest alone on the federal debt is $479 billion. In 1979, total federal government receipts were $463 billion.
    8. In the year 2000, the federal debt was $5.67 trillion. In 2019, federal debt is 297 percent higher.
    9. At Forbes, Jim Powell writes that the old New Deal cost about $50 billion from 1933 to 1940, whereas the “future cost of old New Deal programs still in effect is reckoned at more than $50 trillion.”
    10. A recent analysis by the CBO projected that the federal budget deficit (deficit as in the difference between federal outlays and revenues) will grow to $1 trillion alone in 2020.
    11. As of December 2018, only ten countries have worse Debt-to-GDP ratios than the United States.
    12. At NPR, Danielle Kurtzleben writes that Senator Bernie Sanders’ “taxation-and-spending plans...would together add $18 trillion to the national debt over a decade.”
    13. According to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, roughly 24 percent of federal spending goes to Social Security, 26 percent to federal health insurance programs, 9 percent to safety net programs, and only 2 percent on transportation infrastructure.
    14. By 2025, the cost of servicing our national debt will exceed the cost of our military spending.
    15. The cost of implementing a Universal Basic Income, presidential candidate Andrew Yang’s central social program proposal, would cost $3.8 trillion per year or roughly 85 percent of current federal spending.
    16. It would take the United States 713,470 years to pay down the national debt if we paid $1 per second of the year.
    17. Modern presidents have doubled the national debt every nine years.
    18. The Federal Reserve “purchased large amounts of federal debt as part of its quantitative easing program,” thus cheapening the cost (decreasing the interest rates) of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBHUFFY View Post
    Estimated US population is 331,002,651 according to Google search. I'm not a math wiz, the $2,000,000,000,000 stimulus bill, if passed to the population, would have given $6042.25 to every man, woman, and child living.
    Methinks that number is somewhat smaller if you count legal residences only.
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    the biggest problem i see with bailouts of this kind is the fraud an waste there is in it like telling banks to loan money under real life times they couldnt show any way to pay it back.

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    Interest on debt in 2019 was approx 593 billion. Budget for Military was 616 billion. Never hear politicans talk about this that are paying almost as much on interest as on Military. Unfunded liability of US is over 200 trillion.

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