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    What system is better in outcomes, cost or access? Care to discuss Environment Of Care, building and safety codes and regulations in those places?

    I see the irony in policy advisors in the insurance industry plucking policies from their favorite socialist systems, forcing them into our healthcare industry, then pointing a finger at us for failures.

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    OMG!! This is so scary!!

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    Wow. Now I understand how helpless it must feel to lie ina bed and hope someone comes to save you by changing your machine that supports your very could be final minutes of your life.
    I have had one of those moments when BP went ape sh$t post op and trying to get someoneís attention to bother someone who could authorize medication at 2 a.m. seemed to be an impossible task. It is not a very comforting feeling to sit and wonder if you make it will I have had a stroke, will I remember my name, my family etc.
    Everyone should take this disease seriously. College kids cases are a great example of donít give a sh$t that will could kill someone they love in their own family or friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bossbowman View Post
    He was one of the outliers, Nightline did a show about this late last week otherwise healthy people in their 20's to 40's that had to be hospitalized because of the virus, its a very small percentage of the population but it does happen

    There seams to be alot of outliers in Maryland. The Gov said yesterday that more than 50% of hospitalizations are under 50. We need to stop with the nonsense that this virus is only dangerous to the elderly and those with underlying conditions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by izzylipz View Post
    The scary part isnít whatís happening. Itís what the government isnít telling you about it.
    Tell us more. What are they holding back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boneil View Post
    There seams to be alot of outliers in Maryland. The Gov said yesterday that more than 50% of hospitalizations are under 50. We need to stop with the nonsense that this virus is only dangerous to the elderly and those with underlying conditions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boneil View Post
    There seams to be alot of outliers in Maryland. The Gov said yesterday that more than 50% of hospitalizations are under 50. We need to stop with the nonsense that this virus is only dangerous to the elderly and those with underlying conditions.
    I agree. Either the virus has changed somewhat or the storyline of only the elderly was very wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by 188Musky View Post
    What system is better in outcomes, cost or access? Care to discuss Environment Of Care, building and safety codes and regulations in those places?

    I see the irony in policy advisors in the insurance industry plucking policies from their favorite socialist systems, forcing them into our healthcare industry, then pointing a finger at us for failures.
    There are a ton of peer reviewed journals comparing healthcare systems.

    https://interactives.commonwealthfun...mirror-mirror/

    I'm not pointing the finger at anyone about the failures, especially not the folks that are actually providing care. I'm just pointing out that tour system is flawed and to say it's the best healthcare system is a gross mischaracterization based on conjecture.

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    This post really hits home for me. I have a good friend of 20+ years who also worked for me. He passed away in his sleep sometime between March 13 and 14. He had just turned 41 on March 12. The timeline and symptoms almost match exactly to description from the nurse in the original post. He went home with what he thought was a sever head cold on Mar. 3 at lunch. He stayed home that week, and when a fever stayed into the weekend, he went to Urgent Care and they prescribed him some anti-virals. The doctor said he had a "nasty strain of the flu" that was going around. The doctor said to take the 5 day cycle of anti-virals and tylenol for the fever and if that didnt kick the bug, to go to the ER for further testing. Back then the Covid19 was still viewed as something foreign. There was not even a consideration to administer a CV test if available. We live in Metro Detroit, and there was nothing involving covid19 really even being discussed locally at that point. His fever remained, and i exchanged some texts with him on Thursday march 12. He said he was still caughing all night and had a fever. He had one more anit-viral pill to take and he said he was going to the ER if the fever didnt leave by then. No one heard from him Friday. Then on Saturday morning his family ordered a wellness check and he was found dead in hit bed No test was available to administer after he passed until it was too late, so we do not know what actually took his life, but this timeline makes me further suspect he was one of the first in Michigan to die from Covid19, even if it is not official.

    Everyone take this seriously, and protect yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boneil View Post
    There seams to be alot of outliers in Maryland. The Gov said yesterday that more than 50% of hospitalizations are under 50. We need to stop with the nonsense that this virus is only dangerous to the elderly and those with underlying conditions.
    It will be curious to look at the statistics when this is done as to which gender and ethinic groups this affects more or if theres no corroletion there. As of now it seems men seem to be more susceptible to hospitalization with this but that could also be they just wait longer to go to urgent care.

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    This is NO FREAKING JOKE. STAY AT HOME. Your life is more important than any fishing tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardnibbles View Post
    There are a ton of peer reviewed journals comparing healthcare systems.

    https://interactives.commonwealthfun...mirror-mirror/

    I'm not pointing the finger at anyone about the failures, especially not the folks that are actually providing care. I'm just pointing out that tour system is flawed and to say it's the best healthcare system is a gross mischaracterization based on conjecture.
    Well reading how data is accumulated it's very hard to compare. It's using segregated data from patients/ doctors. Most would be satisfied with what they receive not knowing what the rest of the world is capable of.
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