ISO Naked Bait Co skirt expander tool

[cadman]

Naked bait co closed many years ago. I found the guys contact info and talked to him about buying it. He was asking 475k that included 1 year of support services. My thoughts were it’s skirts not rocket science! He did inform me the tool is patented and price reflected fees incurred for that also. There is apparently a China made version he told me. The longer I talked to him he seemed more and more “full” of himself which I can only stand for so long, so I ended our conversation.
I have 2 of them and honestly wouldn’t take much to copy and have made wood or aluminum. It crossed my mind to have a copy made with enough changes to avoid patent issues but never persued it. The weak link appears to be the 3 fingers that hold the collar.

You are correct it is not rocket science and not that complicated to reproduce. You have a PM from me.

[Les Young]

Les,
Where do you think the name Cadman came from. LOL..

Duh no sh*t. That's the reason i said that.

[21XDC]

I have a tool similar to what you mentioned that was sold at BPS about 6 years ago. It works fine except it does not lock in place. Plus I want something also that is bench mounted.

Some do lock... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078R4DYWM..._t3_B081ZLTC56

Seems like it would be easy to make any of them lock with a ring on one side of the handle...

[21XDC]

I have been meaning to buy a pair of these to try.... Only $30

https://www.newark.com/hellermanntyt...ool/dp/20J5611

[21XDC]

Well........ I just ordered one... I'll let you know what I think of it.

[krindgen]

I got one. Don't use it but won't part with it......or maybe for $300 I would. hehe

[Mark Perry]

I bought this and never looked back...I have on of the little yellow plastic expanders somewhere but it never gets used since I bought this one.

[TerrysRanger374V]

looks like i have found one on a different site that they will sell
thank you all for the help
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[stein3411]

I bought this and never looked back...I have on of the little yellow plastic expanders somewhere but it never gets used since I bought this one.

X2 - great tool.

[stein3411]

I have been meaning to buy a pair of these to try.... Only $30

https://www.newark.com/hellermanntyt...ool/dp/20J5611

I have a couple pairs of this exact brand. They work pretty good. I modified the tongs that hold the skirt band.

[21XDC]

Why and how did you modify the prongs?

[stein3411]

Why and how did you modify the prongs?

The edges were to sharp and would cut the band if you applied pressure in the wrong direction I replaced the supplied tongs with 316 stainless steel tig wire. It looks similar to the Naked Baits Skirt Expander.

[21XDC]

The edges were to sharp and would cut the band if you applied pressure in the wrong direction I replaced the supplied tongs with 316 stainless steel tig wire. It looks similar to the Naked Baits Skirt Expander.

OK... Did you try and round off the sharp edges first? Seems like an easier option.

[stein3411]

OK... Did you try and round off the sharp edges first? Seems like an easier option.

Yes, it would have been easier option. I always got to do things the hard way and always feel that I can build a better mouse trap. Stay safe and healthy Michael.

[21XDC]

I have switched o ring types from 70 durometer to 50 and has made all of the difference in the world... I'm still looking for a softer rubber, But the 50 durometer is way softer and elastic than 70...

[kris brantner]

You guys just need to ditch the skirt collars. They suck anyways

[21XDC]

You guys just need to ditch the skirt collars. They suck anyways

I hate collars... I have tied miles and miles worth of wire on old school square rubber, round rubber etc... I like using o rings on the silicone. I use 2 o-rings per skirt. Make a skirt with 1 o-ring, Slide skirt on, Then put another one on after on the lead collar or barbed collar. Make the bait flare more and keeps the skirt pushed forward.

[stein3411]

I hate collars... I have tied miles and miles worth of wire on old school square rubber, round rubber etc... I like using o rings on the silicone. I use 2 o-rings per skirt. Make a skirt with 1 o-ring, Slide skirt on, Then put another one on after on the lead collar or barbed collar. Make the bait flare more and keeps the skirt pushed forward.

I've been doing the same thing. Great minds think alike.

[kris brantner]

Thread tying is super easy and even better than wire tying. Give it a try

[21XDC]

Thread tying is super easy and even better than wire tying. Give it a try

I have... I tie my own dressed trebles etc... When you have been making your own everything for near 40 years, You probably have tried most everything.

And you are only 33