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    Clean Water Act of 1972 Dismantled

    Any of you guys see today's article in the New York Times. Pretty sad. Seems like anyone's going to be able to dump whatever they want to on their land and into our waterways. Unbelievable.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/22/c...ny8ijLI3hFc1Ts

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    Remember its from the NYTimes not the most reliable source of information. Find a dependable article about the repeal and the what will take place in stead.

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    I wouldn’t believe anything in that paper.

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    As a rural landowner and farmer I say thank God.

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    Now if we could just pull back the regulations on diesel vehicles that would be awesome.

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    Fake news. Not enough votes in the house to change the law.
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    How anyone can sign off on this is mind boggling. I'm starting to lean towards the thought that not many actually fish, just type about it??

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    Maybe TheRock™ can play the Native who sheds a tear when the A-hole threw garbage along the roadway? So none of You have kids or grandkids? Does it matter what kind of access they have to water in the future?

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    Unbelievable that people actually think this will lead to polluted waterways. They would rather be outraged by a headline than actually look into what changes are being made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boneil View Post
    Unbelievable that people actually think this will lead to polluted waterways. They would rather be outraged by a headline than actually look into what changes are being made.
    The article says, "The new water rule for the first time in decades allow landowners and property developers to dump pollutants such as pesticides and fertilizers directly into hundreds of thousands of waterways, and to destroy or fill in wetlands for construction projects."

    These are the changes that are going to be made. Did you just read the headline?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5-20 View Post
    The article says, "The new water rule for the first time in decades allow landowners and property developers to dump pollutants such as pesticides and fertilizers directly into hundreds of thousands of waterways, and to destroy or fill in wetlands for construction projects."

    These are the changes that are going to be made. Did you just read the headline?
    Thats what the article says, what does the law actually say?

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    You know there is always another side to the story. Under the previous regs; if a guy had a small pond dug out with a dozer to water his cows, it was then considered a wetland and fell under federal EPA regulations. As with most government policy, there is some good buried in a bunch of nonsense.
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    What grandbassslayer said. You nailed it Sir

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    We may not feel it for a few years, but we will miss that protection as fishermen. Lots of seasonal creeks that are watersheds and even spawning habitat are going to get dumped in.

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    I wonder what the fish think of this? Surely they are familiar with the clean water act of 1972.

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    "Dismantled"? Bit of a strong word.

    I'm not 100% on board with this, but the sky's certainly not falling, either.

    https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/epa...tection-rule-0

    https://www.epa.gov/nwpr/navigable-w...tep-two-revise
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    Quote Originally Posted by mixermark View Post
    We may not feel it for a few years, but we will miss that protection as fishermen. Lots of seasonal creeks that are watersheds and even spawning habitat are going to get dumped in.
    Agree, you might think it does not affect you, but if you will recall, a lot of people believe that the recent water quality problems in Florida are related to development. Economics/money should not always be the deciding factor when making regulations.

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    Personally, I think the environmental regulations are good for the most part. Businesses will do whatever they can to make or save money and do not care about the environment. I don't want to go back to the days of the Cuyahoga river burning or have air like China. Without regulations, we will be there within the decade.

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    I knew a machine shop owner that would take 55 gallon drums of used coolant and dump them in the creek on his farm that fed to a small river that flowed to the Mississippi. Regulations are in place for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown angler View Post
    I knew a machine shop owner that would take 55 gallon drums of used coolant and dump them in the creek on his farm that fed to a small river that flowed to the Mississippi. Regulations are in place for a reason.
    A scumbag who will do that, is going to do it...regulations or not.

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