? about 50 cal 200 grain sabot

[marinetechnician]

Thinking about trying the TC 200 grain shockwave sabot. I would be using 2 white hot pellets but also going to try blackthorn 209 loose powder. I have a CVA optima V2 rifle and curious if anyone has feedback on accuracy and performance on deer out to 100 yds.

[yetti462]

I used to shoot the same bullet but have switched to Barnes. I shoot 100gr loose 777. 100yds will be no problem, should be fine out to 150.
I'm shooting 250gr bullet.

[Transom]

That is a really light for what I assume is a 45 cal pistol bullet. I would not want to push those too hard on deer sized game.

[yetti462]

200gr will flat lay one out. Barnes used to make, might still, a 180 gr sabot. It was/is wicked.

[Ben Danbleume]

That is a really light for what I assume is a 45 cal pistol bullet. I would not want to push those too hard on deer sized game.

I don't think they are pistol bullets.

[marinetechnician]

200gr will flat lay one out. Barnes used to make, might still, a 180 gr sabot. It was/is wicked.

Everything I have read says that it's a devastating round even with 100 grains of pellets. I've been shooting 150 grains of white hots and 777 with 270 grain bullets. My poor shoulder can't take that amount any more. Reviews say the 200 grain sabot takes away some kick along with dropping to backing down on the powder charge.

[Transom]

I do not have much experience with muzzloaders but I do have experience with big bore revolvers and big bore rifles. What I have learned is that they had things figured out years ago. Big and heavy bullets at moderate velocity kill effectively and damage less meat than modern smaller bore high velocity rifles. Heavy bullets have high sectional density to provide sufficient penetration the heavy lead bullets go through leaving a good canal for bleed out and you can eat all the way up to the hole. No need for fancy expensive bullets with a big bore as heavy plain lead bullets simply get the job done and they can do the job with less velocity which can give relief to bruised shoulders. Lighter big bore bullets have lower sectional density. If you push them too hard you could end up with poor penetration and a lot of meat loss and potentially a failed bullet.

[cyclone70]

The Blackhorn 209 powder is awesome stuff.
I can fire the gun and leave it for days and not clean it. (CVA Accura V2 SS)
4 days later run a brush through it, still looks beautiful.
With 200 gr. bullet start with 120gr. and drop charges by 5 gr. each time.
Compare groups to find optimum load.

[vafishing]

The Blackhorn 209 powder is awesome stuff.
I can fire the gun and leave it for days and not clean it. (CVA Accura V2 SS)
4 days later run a brush through it, still looks beautiful.
With 200 gr. bullet start with 120gr. and drop charges by 5 gr. each time.
Compare groups to find optimum load.

Second this I shoot an Optima V2 with Hornady SST 250gr and switched over to Blackhorn 209 this year. Thing is a tack driver. Shooting what in Blackhorn is the equivalent of 150 grains of triple 7. Super clean shooting, I swear the gun shoots better the more rounds you shoot and no having to clean it every three or four rounds like with the triple 7.

[marinetechnician]

Thanks for the info guys. My 209 breach plug just came in so looking forward to trying the Blackhorn powder.