Wasnt chirp 2d supposed to help in this case?Originally Posted by LWINCHESTER2
Wasnt chirp 2d supposed to help in this case?
The payoff comes when dealing with irregular features and steep banks, piers, and docks.
Leonard are you saying it eliminates to minimizes dead band along steep banks etc...thanks
Brody..if 2D transducer has a narrow cone angle it has less dead band
Thanks Brody it is a bit over the top. Decided when I bought this boat would rig it to fit "all" my fishing styles. The journey has been fun and educational. The comparisons of different transducers and units on the same bottom I find very educational....one of those bucket list items. Pretty much set now how I like it. Not much changing planned works awesome∆ Thats one hell of a setup
I won't say eliminates it. There's always some dead area with irregular features, but it is clearly superior to anything else.
My wife asks if I'm going to fish every day. I can't fish every day. Some days I might be sick.
It's a relative matter. 2d chirping around 20 degrees beats 2d-20 degrees without chirp. 10 degrees without chirp, beats 20 degrees chirp, quite a bit. I've run the Vexilar Edge 400 kHz-10 degree side by side against several chirp transducers. Edge wins. But then switch to GT10 that chirps 130-300 kHz, 7-16 degrees. Now that's some competition. Edge still wins by a hair down to 100 ft. Below that GT10 wins hands down. It's hard for the Edge to compete there against 500 watts.
Last edited by LWINCHESTER2; 12-01-2019 at 01:58 PM.
My wife asks if I'm going to fish every day. I can't fish every day. Some days I might be sick.
Hmmm [QUOTE=Treeguyus;10685240]No question the PS 30 for my fishing clearly the overall choice. I fish walleyes, lake trout. Certain applications HB's mega side imaging is a plus viewing the weed edge, dips and cups in the weed edges and the PS 30 will show fish suspended on the deep side. I don't have live scope, so my question is this how would it work on suspended fish 30-50 down over 100' of water, lake trout, walleye and crappie compared to the PS-30
Livescope works fine on suspended fish at 50’ if you have the patience to keep them on your screen. The crappie at one of the lakes I fish suspend at 45-50 ft in 65 ft of water along a steep river channel and some old submerged concrete structures. I use Livescope in forward for the deep fish. The Down on Livescope is hard to track fish/lures at depth compared to the 30. I initially find the fish with down/ side/ ps30. I then track the fish with a 30 and/or 31 and figure out the bite with the Livescope. I think you might be limited with your 10” screen though. At least with smaller baits and fish like crappie. If you ever get Livescope, PM me and I’ll give you a work around for that 10” screen in deep water.
If I looked good in spandex and my boats paint had glitter, I’d fish for bass.
Luckily the Crappie, Stripers and Tuna don’t seem to care.............. BigBry
How did you find fish with a 10° cone before Panoptix, cruise around until they showed up?
I couldnt imagine using that narrow a beam to find fish on unknown waters. Ive fished lakes in Canada similar to your lake, and using 10° cone would take forever.
That is what I like about the Edge or any unit with two transducers networked together. One wide and the other narrow, wide to scan a wider area narrow to pinpoint. Find this a incredible tool for fish suspended. Wide cone angle shows more fish in the water column and the narrow gets me closer to pin point "real depth" they are suspended at
Last edited by Treeguyus; 12-02-2019 at 04:24 AM.
Sounds a lot like using Sideview and/or a Ps30 as the wide and Livescope as the narrow to pinpoint. Just sayin............
If I looked good in spandex and my boats paint had glitter, I’d fish for bass.
Luckily the Crappie, Stripers and Tuna don’t seem to care.............. BigBry
For me the LS is awesome for finding brush piles.
Looks like some of you have been using garmin for a long time. If that was the only SI a person owned livescope is a winner hands down.
The mega though is another animal altogether. I use it all the time to check for fish in piles without having to ride directly over them.
i'd give up di first. losing si is never an option.
If there was a LiveScope 180, similar to the PS30 but detailed and without the dead area at the top, I could easily do without SI.
My wife asks if I'm going to fish every day. I can't fish every day. Some days I might be sick.
Guess what!
have fun scanning large areas. It’s just not possible.
I have to disagree on the scanning I throw the ultrex on high and use my all aboard mount to scan left and right .I can find stuff way out in front of me and not run over it and spook the fish .Cant do that with side scan .Guys have to learn how to adapt to a better system!
try that on a new large lake
I have I pick coves or areas that have channel swings or docks and scan them .I can also idle the big motor for a little faster search.I have done this many times with my partner steering .Once I see fish we stop and hit that spot.To me it a lot more efficient than trying to see the side scan and guessing if that is fish or not and having to turn around and go find that spot.Like I said think out side the box and learn something new
lol ok TOC, i’ll learn something new
Calm down, its only fishing
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