What do you folks use on your wheel lugs to keep them from seizing up? I looked at the stuff in the silver can from Permatex, but it said that it was NOT to be used on wheel lugs. Will regular bearing grease suffice?
What do you folks use on your wheel lugs to keep them from seizing up? I looked at the stuff in the silver can from Permatex, but it said that it was NOT to be used on wheel lugs. Will regular bearing grease suffice?
I have not ever used it but it is probably a good idea!
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2020 Mercury 225 ProXS 4s
I've always (when I can ) cleaned the threads with a thread chaser ( similar to a die ) and sprayed them with WD-40. If I'm at home I make sure they are torqued to 90 lb if not I torque them when I get home. I've never had a problem getting them off and they have always stayed tight. I've also heard that Never Seize is not good for lug nuts, but don't know why.
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Each spring when I change the COOL HUB oil on mt trailer, I apply that anti-seize to each wheel lug bolt, plus on the rear wheels of my Tahoe. If you launch your boat in tidal water, that needs to be done at least yearly, plus regular launching on inland waters can cause corrosion if wheels stay on for a long time. Last thing you need is for a frozen wheel lug on a flat tire along some Interstate.
I replaced all my lug nuts with chrome or s/s crown nuts. The ones that are used on mag wheels. That way the threaded studs are never exposed to the elements. Lightly apply grease of any kind to the threads and your concerns will be satisfied. Note; types of lubricates has an efect on the torque value but not to the degree we should be concerned.
I've used Never Seize on my trailer lugs for 25 years. Never had a problem.
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Always use a thread lube on my lugs when they get changed. A very light coating. Now, you "should" back off on the required torque about 20%. I would imagine the disclaimer on the Permatex is solely to protect against people that slather the lube on the lugs and then install at the dry thread torque. I use the high-temp Permatex anti-seize.
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Lug torque values are for dry threads. Adding anything will cause you to over stretch the lug studs and put excess pressure on your wheels and hubs. If you torque them properly and take them off periodically for brake and bearing maintenance, the nuts aren’t going to seize.Originally Posted by acesover
If you have integrity, nothing else matters. If you don't have integrity,
nothing else matters.
Mine seized and I couldn't get them off... I bought new rims and tires at 5 years old and needed Discount tire use a 4ft breaker bar and a 350lb man to get them off. Fortunately the studs did not break off. Their HD impact did nothing... I put the anti seize on my threads.... I would have been screwed if I had a flat... My oil filled hubs are 5 year no maintenance.
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I'm old school. A dab of grease on the lugs (including new) A good snug with a full size 4 way. No troubles in 30 years, main thing - regular inspection and maintenance. I had one trailer that had a sticker warning to check lugs before each trip. IMO that's way overkill, but don't wait 5 years
Been using Permatex for years with no problem.
love Permatex anti seize.
2020 Ranger 521L, Merc 250 Pro XS
Lug nuts thats are submerged in water dry? No thanks im not willing to take that risk. Ive seen lug nuts rusted on trailers that dont see the water. Not gonna be too handy on the side of the road. Most people go overkill is the problem just a small dab is all you need to coat the threads. Most trailer ligs recommend 95 ft/lbs of torque. A half inch stud isnt going to be effected enough to harm it adding a little anti sieze at that torque value thats splitting hairs.
Roy
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Lubricant can cause 40% over torque. 95 ft-lbs changes to 133ft-lbs. That is beyond the point where some threads will strip on lesser quality studs. It is simply not safe, and if you work in the aircraft business it is a terminable offense. Stretching steel beyond its limits is a bad idea in every way. I have 5 trailers, two tractors and three vehicles. Some of this equipment spends much of its life with wheels submerged in cow manure and urine. Lugs just don’t seize unless they are over torqued when installed.
If you have integrity, nothing else matters. If you don't have integrity,
nothing else matters.
Properly torqued hardware will sieze all the same so not sure where you are coming from with only over torqued hardware siezing but ok. I can see it being a problem with people who have zero feel when tifhtening fasteners down but for those that do i dont see it being a problem. We ll have to agree to disagree on this one i wont ever put lugs on without it. I guess im “unsafe”.
Roy
2020 Triton 18 Trx
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Bravo FS 24P Prop
Atlas 6” jp
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Minnkota Ultrex.
The stud, when stretched, is like a spring. More torque produces more clamping force so there is more friction on the threads.
If you have integrity, nothing else matters. If you don't have integrity,
nothing else matters.
Have to respectfully disagree..
May have a lot to do with location.. rusted/seized nuts and bolts are a big problem where I live. Not just lug nuts but countless places on farm and ranch machinery. Fairly common around here to see any kind of trailer with one or more lugs twisted off.
Have heard a few mechanics say it's senseless to use anti-seize in those applications cuss the poop and piss eventually wash the lube away.
2017 Phoenix 819
2016 200ProXS, s/n 2B359849, Mod 1200P73BD
All the farmers I grew up with used a dab of grease on the threads.. helps keeps the rust from growing things together.
Saved anti seize for SS and aluminum since they don't grow rust.
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