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    NY dot will fail a bus if they have anti seize on the studs
    https://www.dot.ny.gov/divisions/ope...%20Nuts%202012
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    Northern Michigan, salt snow mud ect. Everything gets anti seize or Loctite if it is exposed. CJ
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    Y’all get one guess which side of the fence saltwater boat owners stand on this issue
    You Don't Know what you Don't Know until you Know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOSTTEXAN View Post
    Y’all get one guess which side of the fence saltwater boat owners stand on this issue
    If you truly are a "LOSTTEXAN" that should say --- Y'all get 3 guesses and the first 2 don't count.....

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    #25
    So what do I do with all these SS lug nuts? Dissimilar metal fasteners...use anti-seize vs wheel studs...don't use anti-seize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Islands View Post
    So what do I do with all these SS lug nuts? Dissimilar metal fasteners...use anti-seize vs wheel studs...don't use anti-seize.
    SS lugs should definitely get lubed. SS is prone to thread galling.
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    I removed the open lug nuts on my Ranger Trail years ago and installed closed end stainless nuts. Dab of anti-sieze on just the threads (not the contact area). Reduced torque from 100 to 85 ft lbs. My rig is used in fresh & saltwater.

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    #28
    Quote Originally Posted by 1BADAIR View Post
    NY dot will fail a bus if they have anti seize on the studs
    https://www.dot.ny.gov/divisions/ope...%20Nuts%202012
    agree; no anti-seize on studs; thought it was common knowledge, actually

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesxpress View Post
    I removed the open lug nuts on my Ranger Trail years ago and installed closed end stainless nuts. Dab of anti-sieze on just the threads (not the contact area). Reduced torque from 100 to 85 ft lbs. My rig is used in fresh & saltwater.
    This is all it takes. Key is threads only and not on the tapers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecoast View Post
    agree; no anti-seize on studs; thought it was common knowledge, actually
    This would be great info if we were towing boats with NYS buses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1BADAIR View Post
    NY dot will fail a bus if they have anti seize on the studs
    https://www.dot.ny.gov/divisions/ope...%20Nuts%202012
    Im a bus mechanic for my local school district and Our CHP inspector explained to us that the only reason they dont want anti sieze used is because some guys will put it on too heavy and it gets on the tapered surfaces of the nut and wheel and they can back off. Other than that he said its a non issue but yes if there is evidence of it they can write it up.
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    #32
    I use the closed chrome lock nuts and antiseize in moderation. Never had a problem. I also carry a m18 1/2" milwaukee impact gun, impact sockets, and a jack, I have helped two boaters on side of 85 coming back from Kerr Lake. They had a 4 star lug wrench nad it would not budge. I offered my jack, impact socket, and gun. I did mention it could break off a lug nut or two.
    One boater all 5 nuts removed no broken lugs. Second boater 2 of the 5 lugnuts.

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    #33
    Small dab of anti seize on the first thread of the studs, when you put the nuts on it will crate a thin layer between stud and nut. also on the back of the rim where it contacts the axle hub. No problems in the last forty years.
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    #34
    Pinky finger of grease has always served me well. Lubricating the threads is not going to cause a over-torque IMO. Lubricating the mating surface of the lug and wheel will.
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    Any type of lubricant on a threaded fastener requires a reduction in torque by 10-20% depending on the size of fastener.

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    No lubrication on wheel studs. Read your owners manual for the trailer. Here is an example of the instructions from karavan trailers Recommended Torquing Procedure for Mounting Wheels
    1. After dismounting old wheel, remove all dirt, rust, grease and oil from stud threads. Do not lubricate threads.
    2. Position wheel on trailer. Inspect to insure full contact between mounting surface (seat pads) of wheel and mounting sur-
    face of hub or brake drum.
    3. Start wheel nuts on studs.
    4. Finger tighten top nut, then rotate wheel so that the number 2 nut is at top and finger tighten. Finger tighten remaining
    nuts in numerical (crisscross) order; always tighten nuts in top position.
    5. Repeat Step 4, rotating wheel and finger tightening nuts until all nuts are snug.
    6. Tighten nuts in same fashion as described in Steps 4 and 5. Nuts should be torqued to 80-90 ft. lbs. Retorque nuts after
    50 miles of driving and periodically thereafter.
    7. After wheels (with tires) have been mounted, visually inspect to insure noninterference with body or other component
    parts. Be sure to inspect wheels in all possible positions (extreme turns, etc).
    NOTE : Check the fit of your lug wrench, an oversize wrench results in mutilated lug nuts.

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    A thin coat of Nuclear grade N1000 for me.
    Valid points on both sides. As for the science behind it, most of the time I'll lean toward but good ol fashion tried and true wins every time.

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    #38
    Today’s world is a game of CYA.
    Manufacturers and regulatory agencies are much more concerned about liability, however remote, that a wheel might unintentionally come loose and have no incentive to be concerned if you are stuck on the side of the road with seized lugs.
    We are all still entitled to exercise our own judgement as to what is in our best interest.
    To each their own judgement.
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    #39
    I use a dab of grease and a torque wrench, 90 lbs on all wheels.

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    I would never use Stainless steel as lug nuts. I worked in a steel mill for 43 years, we made special metals. Mostly Stainless steel. Stainless steel is actually a soft metal, hence the term galling. It doesn't take much to over torque any ss nuts, bolts,or screws. I hear people say that ss is the hardest types of steel. The uses of ss,is to avoid corrosion and creates a tight seat on aircraft and other applications to also prevent the metal from contraction and expansion from cold and heat. And lubricants are not applicable on ss.Stainless steel is also not used for moving mechanisms without a bushing. Any bearings made of ss is balanced to be concentric to the surface to prevent wear.
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