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  1. dartag1829
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    Marketing trick. The air we breath is 78.08% Nitrogen and 20.95 Oxygen. But if you want to use it go ahead. They do give you little green caps for the valve stems.

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    I’d bet no one has ever run a set of tires long enough to determine whether using nitrogen vs. plain air made them last longer.
    Either the tread wore out, or they dry rotted long before.
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    Please do, it's just more money in my pocket.

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    When I worked for a welding supply I tried it, the gas cost me nearly nothing, I got 100,000 miles out of a set of Cooper tires, while with straight air I got about 80,000, same truck, same tire, the big key to it is putting miles on fast, the nitrogen will dry the rubber out faster than straight air, at that time I was averaging a little over 50,000 miles per year.

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    Absolutely required for fighter aircraft, not so much in your car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 11pounder View Post
    The tires are supposed to run cooler with nitrogen, and is supposed to be less corrosive to the rubber so in theory it should mean longer tire life.

    I never have problem with the inside of my tires...it's the outside that always fails........so what good does nitrogen inside of the tire do ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildturkey View Post
    I run 78% nitrogen; 21% oxygen, and about 1% inert gases. Best combination I have found.
    You must be a scientist to create such a precise combination. You should be on Myth Busters >

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildturkey View Post
    I run 78% nitrogen; 21% oxygen, and about 1% inert gases. Best combination I have found.
    Where can I buy this mixture? I’m willing to pay top dollar!

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    If you want the actual scientific reason for why some favor nitrogen over air, it is covered in a pressure/temperature chart. There is nothing at all wrong with standard "dry" air in a tire.
    The problem is air is not dry. With "air" inside a tire, the pressure will depend on the temperature. As it warms it will build pressure. As is cools it will lose pressure. It isn't the "air" that changes, its the moisture (water) inside the tire that changes... Nitrogen is "dry" and will have a negligible amount of "water" in it. Therefore, it will change very little based on temperature. It will change some, but very little... Is this a problem for most people? No. But it can be for an elderly woman. This is why old men told their wives to go get "winter air" put in the tires.. If you inflate your tires on a 95 degree day with high humidity to proper "air" pressure, you will most definelty be adding air come winter time. If you inflate them on a cold 30 degree day, you will most likely be over inflated come summer time... This is why in racing they use nitrogen. If they were to use air (like they did in the good old days) the cars will handle really well on "cold" tires. But as they build considerable heat the handling goes away. This is because they will over inflate due to heat causing the water vapor to increase pressure. With nitrogen, they only increase a couple of psi or less from cold to hot. Nitrogen is most definetly a "better" option over air. But it isn't critical. It will usually have better longevity out of the tire as well. But again, some people only buy jackhammers. I buy chatterbaits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T Dub View Post
    Where can I buy this mixture? I’m willing to pay top dollar!
    BE at the MLF wieghin !

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildturkey View Post
    I run 78% nitrogen; 21% oxygen, and about 1% inert gases. Best combination I have found.
    Does anyone know if any board sponsors carry this? Any BBC discounts? How much would shipping cost?
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    The reason for nitrogen is it has a larger molecular structure and leaks out at a slower rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildturkey View Post
    I run 78% nitrogen; 21% oxygen, and about 1% inert gases. Best combination I have found.
    And why is that. I’ve been pulling trailers for going on 40 years with just plain ole gas station air and have never had a problem. We even pull boat trailers in winter to fish open water when it’s well below freezing and never had a problem. So again what is so special with your cocktail of air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOEFT View Post
    And why is that. I’ve been pulling trailers for going on 40 years with just plain ole gas station air and have never had a problem. We even pull boat trailers in winter to fish open water when it’s well below freezing and never had a problem. So again what is so special with your cocktail of air.
    His "special cocktail" is plain old air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildturkey View Post
    I run 78% nitrogen; 21% oxygen, and about 1% inert gases. Best combination I have found.
    Same as ​ I run, Water vaper is what causes the fluctuation in tire pressure with temperature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Jackson View Post
    The reason for nitrogen is it has a larger molecular structure and leaks out at a slower rate.
    That’s just marketing crap. Air is 80% nitrogen already. If that was true your tires would eventually become 100% nitrogen filled just adding air because the oxygen would leak out and the 80% nitrogen would stay in. The reason for nitrogen is it is dry and race teams can maintain more precise pressure and tire dealers can sucker people into paying for a useless product. The molecular size difference won’t make difference in leakage over the life of the tire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Jackson View Post
    The reason for nitrogen is it has a larger molecular structure and leaks out at a slower rate.
    Look at your periodic table. Nitrogen is 7 and oxygen is 8. One proton, neutrons, and electron is not that much of a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THOEFT View Post
    And why is that. I’ve been pulling trailers for going on 40 years with just plain ole gas station air and have never had a problem. We even pull boat trailers in winter to fish open water when it’s well below freezing and never had a problem. So again what is so special with your cocktail of air.
    Because I cannot live without that mixture.
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    All I know is that when I put nitrogen in the trailer tires, my Ranger gained 4 mph on the top end.

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    Better? Yes. Enough to matter at all? No.
    This is how I feel about it! Nitrogen is less temp sensitive but not many keep a bottle of it at home in case of a slow leakage. So too much trouble for me.

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