3d update 19.1, dont do it!

[bloodman]

so bb45 I want to understand completely what you are saying. You had 19.1 on your ss3d box and you rolled it back to 18.3 and the box crashed!!! Do I understand this correctly? Has anyone else rolled back to 18.3 on their 3d box and been successful? thanks

I rolled mine back successfully.

[Reel Addict]

Seems general consensus is that 18.3 61.1.123 is best for 3D module.

What is the consensus for the Carbon. 18.3 133 or 155?

[tayzak15]

so bb45 I want to understand completely what you are saying. You had 19.1 on your ss3d box and you rolled it back to 18.3 and the box crashed!!! Do I understand this correctly? Has anyone else rolled back to 18.3 on their 3d box and been successful? thanks

Mine went bad rolling back from 19.1-18.3. Luckily it was covered under warranty so Lowrance sent me a new box that was pre loaded with 18.3. Haven't bothered changing since

[yupitsme]

Seems general consensus is that 18.3 61.1.123 is best for 3D module.

What is the consensus for the Carbon. 18.3 133 or 155?

155 fixed crap 133 broke....

[R2Tracker]

155 fixed crap 133 broke....

Unless you want to use HDI as a source for down... i.e. 155 introduced new issues.

[yupitsme]

Unless you want to use HDI as a source for down... i.e. 155 introduced new issues.

Clearly a case of .... Damned if ya' do n' damned if ya' don't....

[Team Colibri]

Just out of curiousity.
When the HDI stops working, is that the 7-pin HDI (used with adapter) or the 9-pin HDI or both?

[ClarkBird]

Just out of curiousity.
When the HDI stops working, is that the 7-pin HDI (used with adapter) or the 9-pin HDI or both?

No adapter on mine. Downscan is worthless on 19.1

[R2Tracker]

Just out of curiousity.
When the HDI stops working, is that the 7-pin HDI (used with adapter) or the 9-pin HDI or both?

7 pin HDI plugged into the blue 7 pin port, no adapter involved.

I typically use 3D ducer as my down source so its not a huge deal for me... none the less, I tested and confirmed the issue.

[Team Colibri]

Thanks CB and R2T.

[dan805]

Yesterday I was on Lowrance support call for this issue. Over an hour. As I was tired of waiting for a patch update. I was told they are not aware of this issue, and must not be affecting many. So nothing in the works. They said I could send in my ducker and box for tech support review.

[Team Colibri]

First line support is lying or misinformed. (Not sure which is worse.) Navico is very much aware of the issues.

[bloodman]

First line support is lying or misinformed. (Not sure which is worse.) Navico is very much aware if the issues.

Really sad

[yupitsme]

Really sad

Yes'sir... it tiz'. I've been a Lowrance fella for many... many... moons. While I'm not one to bite off my nose to spite my face.... Read that to say I'm not chunkin' the 3 Carbons I have now - that are working - I think. But I do upgrade ever 3-4 years. Usually just enough to skip one generation. Last time I missed Gen 3 - lucky me. Actually I bought 1(one) when I got my carbon for the console. Once I saw the difference between the Gen 3 and Carbon. Speed/resolution(viewing angle) being the most notable, I sold the Gen 3. Probably had it a month. That said... My next upgrade will not be Lowrance. I may well end up in the same boat with a different partner but hey.... I get tired of getting screwed by the same one over n' over again. Might be fun getting screwed by someone else!

[dan805]

The reason I was on Lowrance support for an hour is that after 5 minutes I realized the support person was clueless. I asked for escalation, I waited at least 20 minutes, that’s when I got to next level where he actually seemed to know the product. He actually asked me if I could test by swapping with someone else’s transducer or module to see if either were an issue. Then he asked if I tried downgrading. In any case he never admitted of a known problem or that any update is in the works. So my next step is to send in my hardware for them to test.

[yupitsme]

The reason I was on Lowrance support for an hour is that after 5 minutes I realized the support person was clueless. I asked for escalation, I waited at least 20 minutes, that’s when I got to next level where he actually seemed to know the product. He actually asked me if I could test by swapping with someone else’s transducer or module to see if either were an issue. Then he asked if I tried downgrading. In any case he never admitted of a known problem or that any update is in the works. So my next step is to send in my hardware for them to test.

Good luck with that! I sent mine in. Actually I sent everything on my boat. 3 - Carbons, 1-ss3D module and the ss3d Transducer. I did not send a 2D transducer. or the ethernet cables... or the nmea cables, or the point one or the mounting gimbals. After for however long I was informed "NFF" - No Fault Found - return to customer. Customer was P.O.'d. That's capital P and capital O'd. Reinstall everything go to tournament - GPS works. 2D sonar works. DS/SS sucks... Call Lowrance again... send more screen shots(they look just like the previous one's I'd sent). Decision was made SS3D module is defective. Lowrance shipped with Saturday delivery 1-SS3D module and 1-SS3D transducer. Only took like 4 months start to finish.

[Reel Addict]

I have played with different combinations between the Carbon 12 and 3D Box. 19.1 and 19.1 was horrible on my Skeeter. Xducer mounted center of transom below jackplate.
The best combination I have found so far is the 18.3 133 on Carbon and 18.3 123 on 3D Box. You do have to turn the contrast up A+10 but seems to show good shadows and structure.

[BigfishRanger]

What is the consensus for HDS Live? no 3D.

[MaciejK]

What is the consensus for HDS Live? no 3D.

3in1
Lss2 HD

[Deadsolid]

Anyone having issues with carbons and the 3 in 1 ducer with the 19.1 update. Is it just the down scan having issues.