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    How many Etecs have blown up so far

    Not being a smart ass as I run a mercury xs on my boat and love it but my pontoon boat['s 2005 90hp johnson just became an anchor (missed the warrranty by 2 months funny huh) and I have seen lots of great marketing for the etecs and have been considering giving it a shot but the only guy I know who runs one (also is sponsored) is now on his 3rd one and his boat has about 50 hrs on it....he wont bad mouth them but I can see frustration in his eyes and after after keeping my ears open I have heard of two more in my area that left the dock on a tourney day but didn't exactly run back.......I have also heard of lower unit issues which I will be the first to admit I am on my 2nd one ( hour 193) but other than that I have 303 hours of great service..........besides my pontoon boat my father will hopefully be ordering a ranger within a year or so and is leaning towards an etec also.....I know every engine has it horror stories, I just am curious if there are a lot

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    Re: How many Etecs have blown up so far (mikepags)

    Mike,

    There have been a few with PH issues... most have been the HO models on bass boats.. as we tend to run them high on the JP with little water pressure and near the limiter... BRP has bent over backwards to make it right for the people that have had issues.. With the number of motors out there and the number of failures it seems to be a very reliable product... Not like the early Fitch / Opti days... They all seem to make good motors these days. I have 124.42 hours on mine right now and they have been trouble free. I wouldn't hesitate to take her out in the middle of Lake Ontario.. which is saying something.. In fishing the TX's around here you see all three limp back now and again.. some of it is product... some is Driver/Owner.



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    Re: How many Etecs have blown up so far (06Stratos201PXLDC)

    I have had very few issues with mine. I did pop a powerhead at 138hrs, but it looks like an injector leaned out and caused it. Could have happened to anything out there, and falls into the "chit happens" category. BRP was on top of it, dropped the boat off on a Monday and was on the water the following Monday.

    Gearcase was replaced at abuot 100hrs due to discoloration of the paint, no mechanical issues.

    I love my Etec, I just wish that they made a performance 2.6 to put on the back of an Allison so I didn't have to go to the dark side.




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    Re: How many Etecs have blown up so far (AB)

    Gary with as many of the 250 XS that are being put on the latest 21 ft. true fishing Ally why couldn't you put a 250 HO on one, love to see that. Mine weighs 5# less than my 225HO............Glad to see you just thinking about it.
    Have heard that Darris A. says NO 3.0 litre motors on his boats and the new 250 HO is a 3.4...............G

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    Re: How many Etecs have blown up so far (mikepags)

    If you are looking at the 90hp E Tec, I don't think you can go wrong. As stated before, most of the problems have been with bigger motors that are being pushed pretty hard. I frequent a few different forums and don't remember seeing many (if any) major problems with the smaller E Tecs. I have over 200 hours on my 2006 75hp E Tec (same block as the 90) and I couldn't be happier. You'll read a lot of "I know somebody that had problems with their E Tec" or "I hear the E Tecs are blowing power heads" etc; but if you read the posts that ask E Tec owners directly how they like the motor, the overwhelming response is that people are happy with them. Sure, any motor can have problems, but I think the E Tec is a pretty good bet.

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    Re: How many Etecs have blown up so far (capnlee)

    Hmmm you need to check the Merc forums and the Yamaha forums too the XS's blow, The HPDI's blow. Hell even Motor gude and Minnkota's go bad.

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    Re: How many Etecs have blown up so far (ChampioNman)

    Darris is only talking about no 3 litre's on the 20' Allisons (XB2002, SS2000, XB2003 & XS2003's). ALL of the XB21 series as well as the new 24' sportboat he is working on are very well suited for big-blocks. I think a 250HO would be ideal on a XB21. Just would need solid mounts and maybe a LWP cone.

    AB, you don't HAVE to go black....Hydro-Tec is waiting on you LOL

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    Re: How many Etecs have blown up so far (Darth VMAX)

    If it's one of the inline engines, and the rpms are set properly to the boat, you'd have to work to kill it some how. The inline 90 E-tec needs to be propped at W.O.T to 5200 rpm for best longevity, some are propped a bit higher in the rpm range, the engine likes a load. I know this number seems low in the band but both the 75 and 90 E-tecs like it here. They have plenty to give at this rpm range. On a pontoon, I'd have a Tach and a water pressure guage installed. There are promotions going on right now so you can call a dealer for the skinny on that. My guys rig em, I set em up to run, they go out and don't come back. That what I'm talkn' bout'!!!

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    Re: How many Etecs have blown up so far (rudetech1)

    <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rudetech1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The inline 90 E-tec needs to be propped at W.O.T to 5200 rpm for best longevity, some are propped a bit higher in the rpm range, the engine likes a load. I know this number seems low in the band but both the 75 and 90 E-tecs like it here. They have plenty to give at this rpm range. </TD></TR></TABLE>rudetech1,

    I am currently turning 5500 rpm WOT with my 75hp E Tec and a 13p prop (16' deep V alumimun boat). Are you saying if I go up in pitch to say a 15 or 17 to lower the WOT rpms that my motor will likely have more longevity? If so, I'll be at the prop store ASAP!

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    Re: How many Etecs have blown up so far (mikepags)

    Mikepags

    To answer the question about how many ETECS have blown up so far this information will help. It has just come in from the Government Office Bureau Of Outboard Motors. They refer to themselves with the abbreviation (GOBOOM). By the way Hillary wants to get rid of the GOBOOM. I personally think that this is a valuable service to Americans since they not only track blown outboards but also politicians like the recent NY Governor Spitzer. The latest results are: (Spitzer’s blown numbers excluded):

    Evinrude Fitch – 3240 blown
    Evinrude Etec - 256 blown
    Yahmaha HPDI – 1755 blown
    Mercury Optimax – 2651 blown
    Suzuki 4 Stroke – 1378 blown

    Hope this helps.

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    Re: How many Etecs have blown up so far (SC1800ETEC90)

    Don't care who u r thats funny right there..

    Steven.. and my serial # is no longer valid HA HA HA...

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    Re: How many Etecs have blown up so far (ShaftDilbert)

    Oh and by the way it will be 2 week s...

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    Re: How many Etecs have blown up so far (ShaftDilbert)

    I would say there are way more with little to no problems versus those with a "total failure". I have had no problems with mine and I have owned three Etecs since 2005. I will never buy a new boat without one. All I need is a 9.9 and I'll be 100% Etec on my boats.


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    Re: How many Etecs have blown up so far (z20ranger07)

    Had mine since April 2006, the only thing that killed it was a rock pile in Lake Ontario. It's back now and running runs like a watch again.

    I don't know what's more amazing about the E-tec, the way they run or that they came onto the scene literally overnight.

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    Re: How many Etecs have blown up so far (SC1800ETEC90)

    So you're saying that more Suzuki 4 strokes have blown then 2 stroke Etecs huh ?

    Man , now that is amusing !!!

    You should be doing those infomercials for Evinrude...


    All kidding aside...I would buy an ETEC with no hesitation.

    I think they have most of the software/mapping issues ironed out now as well as the Lower unit problems.


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    Re: How many Etecs have blown up so far (angler557)

    Its always been interesting to me the comments that have been bandied about about computer updates on the E-Tec. All outboards & cars run on computers these days and all have to be updated from time to time.

    Does anybody use Microsoft or Apple computer. How many zillions of updates have they undergone. Lets get real guys. All updates are refinements. If nothing had updates we would still be on carburetors & the EPA would be extinct. Not only that then all motors would still smoke & we would be using twice as much fuel etc etc.

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    Re: How many Etecs have blown up so far (angler557)

    My 08 200 ETEC HO blew last sunday. Had less than 15 hours on it. Trying to get an explanation as to what happened. BRP rep told me they would take care of me, seems that the dealer is draggin feet on this one. Already missed one tournament. I understand things happen, so I am trying to be patient. I am not gonna bad mouth anyone...YET.... I will keep yall posted..

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    Re: How many Etecs have blown up so far (LIQUID NIRVANA)

    LN - That's not a valid arguement. Most updates on a computer/pc are for new code that is written but MAINLY for security purposes.

    That should NOT be why an outboard needs a software update. BRP updates are for refinement of issues that should have been worked out before the engine went to market !!!

    Also, when was the last time you brought your family car in for an ECM update ? In all my years, I can't recall one time I had to do that.

    The direct injection engine is living on the edge trying to maximize the perfect blend of oil and gas and sometimes chit happens.

    I will agree that computers will fail and do fail and given the enviroment that an outboard has to operate in, that's very understandable.



    Thats all I have to add...




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    Re: How many Etecs have blown up so far (Ricosuave)

    <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ricosuave &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My 08 200 ETEC HO blew last sunday. Had less than 15 hours on it. Trying to get an explanation as to what happened. BRP rep told me they would take care of me, seems that the dealer is draggin feet on this one. Already missed one tournament. I understand things happen, so I am trying to be patient. I am not gonna bad mouth anyone...YET.... I will keep yall posted..

    2008 Ranger 198vx
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    </TD></TR></TABLE> Can we get a model and serial # here. Prop size, W.O.T rpm, and oil type used? I be curious.

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    Re: How many Etecs have blown up so far (rudetech1)

    I am running the 24 Raker that came on it, turns 5800 WOT...XD100 oil, I know there is no break-in required but on the advise of a Tech I took it easy for the first few hours.

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