I have posted on this before, looking for help tying jigs. Got a lot of responses, with most of them talking about using wire instead of thread. I do use wire when making some jigs (big footballs, living rubber), but when it comes to skipping a jig way back under something, you simply cannot be a thread-tied jig (ie. Shooters). Someone posted about a Matarelli Whip Finisher, and I was recently at bass pro so I picked one up and the recommended thread. I have also watched the popular youtube video where the guy displays the technique. Unfortunately, the video's example is on a fly. The problem with that is that flies do not have 2 inches of silicone skirt sticking out beyond the head that you have to wrap around! Actually, my first try today with the tool I nailed it. I have no idea how I did, because my subsequent attempts have been dismal. So, any tips on how to tie this sucker and not get silicone all in the way and in the loop, etc, etc. I think if I can get it down, I can do it very fast, but man this thing will make you hurl it against the wall!