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    Jig Tying - Thread/Matarelli Whip Finish

    I have posted on this before, looking for help tying jigs. Got a lot of responses, with most of them talking about using wire instead of thread. I do use wire when making some jigs (big footballs, living rubber), but when it comes to skipping a jig way back under something, you simply cannot be a thread-tied jig (ie. Shooters). Someone posted about a Matarelli Whip Finisher, and I was recently at bass pro so I picked one up and the recommended thread. I have also watched the popular youtube video where the guy displays the technique. Unfortunately, the video's example is on a fly. The problem with that is that flies do not have 2 inches of silicone skirt sticking out beyond the head that you have to wrap around! Actually, my first try today with the tool I nailed it. I have no idea how I did, because my subsequent attempts have been dismal. So, any tips on how to tie this sucker and not get silicone all in the way and in the loop, etc, etc. I think if I can get it down, I can do it very fast, but man this thing will make you hurl it against the wall!

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    I have a friend that has a jig company that supplies places like TW and Outdoor Pro Shop as well as many smaller tackle shops across the country. His jigs are hand tied and he just does a couple half hitches and a couple of double half hitches to secure them. I tie mine the same way but I put a drop of head cement on the wrap. He said a whip finisher is too much of a pain to use and it slows him down and I agree. I do use a whip finisher when I tie feathered trebles though

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    I agree with Bryan. Some half hitches and a couple double half hitches is more than enough, especially with the head cement.

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    I do the same a put a little Sally Hansen's Hard as Nails

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    I'll give it a try. Just worried about the force of the lure skipping across the water up under docks knocking it loose. How many wraps do you usually make on a jig before tying your hitches?

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    To be honest, I don't count them I'm thinking 6 or 7 after the last pad is added, thread is cheap (I use upholstery thread from Walmart). Trust me, the fish will destroy the skirt long before it slips.

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    I bought a whip finisher when I first started tying jigs and had the same problem. I watched the youtube video's and stuff like you mentioned. What I did was practiced on a blank head watching how the thread turned with the whip finisher and taught myself how to mimic the whip with my fingers. Now I can make a large loop with my fingers to clear the skirt sticking out on the front end. I think there now is a video on youtube that will show this. Search something like whip finish by hand. Hopefully this helps.

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    I prefer wire myself. Its much easier to use. 2 wraps and a couple twists and done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskeeter View Post
    I prefer wire myself. Its much easier to use. 2 wraps and a couple twists and done.
    What wire do you use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanzach View Post
    I do the same a put a little Sally Hansen's Hard as Nails
    This^^^. Three half-hitches and some clear Sally Hansen Hard as Nails...Great stuff!
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    20-24 gauge copper craft wire... Comes in many colors of choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryanmc57 View Post
    I have a friend that has a jig company that supplies places like TW and Outdoor Pro Shop as well as many smaller tackle shops across the country. His jigs are hand tied and he just does a couple half hitches and a couple of double half hitches to secure them. I tie mine the same way but I put a drop of head cement on the wrap. He said a whip finisher is too much of a pain to use and it slows him down and I agree. I do use a whip finisher when I tie feathered trebles though
    It will hold up great when skipping them under docks!!!
    I have tied jigs this way for over 10 years, just make sure you seal the thread.
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    I use old braid to tie with and a couple half hitches a dot of super glue and use a tooth pick to spread it on the braid.
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    Like RangerRed said, use your fingers. Once you get it down it is super fast and easy.

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    I use zip ties they come in all the colors you need . Quick easy , no fuss no muss .