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    What Prop

    i know i have seen this post on here before but cant find it now. what props and numbers are you guys getting on 721 with 250 pro xs. my 721 should be here soon and was going to try to get a head start on the prop.

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    25P Tempest Plus if your pushing a tournament load.

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    25p Fury is what I have found to be the best. 75-77 loaded 2 people and 80-81 loaded 1 person. All around great prop with good holeshot, acceleration and stability at speed.

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    25 Fury & a 25 1/2 (26 repitched to 25) Tempest Plus @ 3 1/2-4" below pad has been good to me. Keep in mind that atmospheric conditions & altitude play a factor, as do water temps.
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    Thanks. I keep seeing all these 27 furys on here and just didnt know if that was gonna be to much or not

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    27 Tempest plus was too much for mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountainman View Post
    25 Fury & a 25 1/2 (26 repitched to 25) Tempest Plus @ 3 1/2-4" below pad has been good to me. Keep in mind that atmospheric conditions & altitude play a factor, as do water temps.
    IMO it depends on what gear case your new boat has. I dont see the wing master or 3rd gen toqure master swinging the 27 Fury unless you run a light load with very little fuel.

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    I run a 25 Fury on my 920 with wingmaster lower. She slings it pretty good but I think there is a better prop for guys with the wingmaster and hydro plate. I plan to test a couple of props the 1st I think will be a 26 TXP (3 Blade), 2nd will be the 26 Bravo 1 FS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unpaulie11 View Post
    I run a 25 Fury on my 920 with wingmaster lower. She slings it pretty good but I think there is a better prop for guys with the wingmaster and hydro plate. I plan to test a couple of props the 1st I think will be a 26 TXP (3 Blade), 2nd will be the 26 Bravo 1 FS.
    let me know how the Bravo 1 works. I also have the 25 Fury on my rig. I have a new Bravo 1 26 new in box.

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    let me know how the Bravo 1 works. I also have the 25 Fury on my rig. I have a new Bravo 1 26 new in box.
    Many interest in trading your 26 Bravo 1 for a new in box 25 Fury?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountainman View Post
    27 Tempest plus was too much for mine.
    Same here on my 2013 721 with the TM1. My dealer ran their demo 2014 721 with a TM2 and I believe a 26 Fury and broke 80 with a light load. Pretty impressive to me.

    I am still searching for the right prop for mine, but will probably settle on a 26 Tempest Plus.
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    Sorry guys I won the prop and it's new in the box and not for sale just yet. I have a friend who has a Gambler and he has first shot at it if I sell. I would like to know how they run a 920 but until I see some numbers from others this one stays in the box lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E5Zero View Post
    Same here on my 2013 721 with the TM1. My dealer ran their demo 2014 721 with a TM2 and I believe a 26 Fury and broke 80 with a light load. Pretty impressive to me.

    I am still searching for the right prop for mine, but will probably settle on a 26 Tempest Plus.
    Not sure how the atmospheric conditions are in your area of Texas, but here in northeast TN, we get alot of high heat & humidity in the summer & very cold temps in the winter with alot of variation in between. I say all this to get to my point: A 25 Fury ran good on my 721, but not what I thought it should do. 25 Tempest bumped the rev limiter & 26 Tempest wasnt hardly enough RPMs. I sent Mark Croxton a 25 Tempest plus & had it repitched to 26.....which makes it more lke a 25 1/2 pitch. This is a great prop for me. I know ALarson on here has had good numbers with the same prop. Might consider it if your numbers are similar to mine & his.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountainman View Post
    Not sure how the atmospheric conditions are in your area of Texas, but here in northeast TN, we get alot of high heat & humidity in the summer & very cold temps in the winter with alot of variation in between. I say all this to get to my point: A 25 Fury ran good on my 721, but not what I thought it should do. 25 Tempest bumped the rev limiter & 26 Tempest wasnt hardly enough RPMs. I sent Mark Croxton a 25 Tempest plus & had it repitched to 26.....which makes it more lke a 25 1/2 pitch. This is a great prop for me. I know ALarson on here has had good numbers with the same prop. Might consider it if your numbers are similar to mine & his.
    Hey Andy, we have a little bit of heat and humidity here in the Houston area. I have kept your notes in my file on props for this reason. He got those numbers in November, so water temps were at a low for us. I think the big variable right now across the board is the different lower units produced over the past 3 or 4 years. I am on my first 250, so have no experience with the ones before the TM1(what I have) or after. I am going to run a 26 this spring and early summer and see how it does. If it is still not getting the RPM's then I will play with the 25 and see about it being re-pitched.

    I really appreciate you guys input.

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    Agree about the different lowers. The wingmaster seems to like to run high like my old Yamaha HPDI. But the Fury does not like to run that high. I can raise my motor all the way and maintain great water pressure and but loose a little speed. I am sure the loss in speed is the nature of Fury liking to be run lower. All this talk reminds me how much I miss fishing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E5Zero View Post
    Hey Andy, we have a little bit of heat and humidity here in the Houston area. I have kept your notes in my file on props for this reason. He got those numbers in November, so water temps were at a low for us. I think the big variable right now across the board is the different lower units produced over the past 3 or 4 years. I am on my first 250, so have no experience with the ones before the TM1(what I have) or after. I am going to run a 26 this spring and early summer and see how it does. If it is still not getting the RPM's then I will play with the 25 and see about it being re-pitched.

    I really appreciate you guys input.



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    The 26 Tempest in the cooler weather should really do well for you in Texas. I run the 26 in the spring and switch to the 25.5 from May-September. I know a lot of guys on here say to not overtrim the engine but I know that my boat could even benefit from having trim wedges installed. Like you said my best speeds were in late November but with the 25.5 this summer 2 guys full load full livewells and 3/4 tank of fuel I was still running 74-75. By myself all summer with a medium load I would see 76-77. The 26 in the heat of the summer would be somewhere around 73-74 with a load and 74-75 light. I would really like to find someone who has tried the Bravo 1 FS on a 721. I know the different lower units make a lot of difference for how to prop these boats and that is always a factor to play in but I have heard of guys with other brands of both both gen 1 and wingmaster lowers benefiting from the Bravo 1 FS.

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    has anyone tried a TXP OT4 or a Hydromotive Quad 4 on a 7 or 9 series with a hydro plate. It seems like they would be a good prop with a decent load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alarson31 View Post
    The 26 Tempest in the cooler weather should really do well for you in Texas. I run the 26 in the spring and switch to the 25.5 from May-September. I know a lot of guys on here say to not overtrim the engine but I know that my boat could even benefit from having trim wedges installed. Like you said my best speeds were in late November but with the 25.5 this summer 2 guys full load full livewells and 3/4 tank of fuel I was still running 74-75. By myself all summer with a medium load I would see 76-77. The 26 in the heat of the summer would be somewhere around 73-74 with a load and 74-75 light. I would really like to find someone who has tried the Bravo 1 FS on a 721. I know the different lower units make a lot of difference for how to prop these boats and that is always a factor to play in but I have heard of guys with other brands of both both gen 1 and wingmaster lowers benefiting from the Bravo 1 FS.
    Mine seems to like the 25.5 better year round(i think this has alot to do with the odd climate here in east tn). I get better bow lift and better speeds from it. The 25 has been relegated to a back up prop for my boat. Im in the same situation with trim, too. At 3.5" below pad, the more trim I give it, the better she runs. My best speeds were unloaded in February with 78.8 & loaded also in February with 2 guys @ 75.2. Summer numbers suffer a little with my best at 74 flat, loaded with 2 guys & full wells. Conversly to the wingmaster, my torquemaster has a sweet spot 3.25-4" below pad. I know the wings like to run higher......also, keep in mind the detune for emmissions in the newer merc powerheads......i think starting with the 2013 models?
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    My new 721 will have atlas 10" hydraulic plate and 2 poles. I will have the opportunity to try several different props from 25 to 27 and some b&b by mark in the next several weeks, just looking for a good one to start with from the dealer. i believe i will be getting a 25 fury. i will post numbers and props as i try them. Wednesday is the day its supposed to be here so keeping my fingers crossed and see if they come thru for me.

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    I had a 26 tempest plus b&b 77mph . 75 with 2 people. Power poles and average man tournment load and never hit the rev limiter . 721 250 xs

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