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    New for 2015...?

    I talked to Kody today. It sounds like we can expect to see a new console design later this year. I gave him my 2 cents on some other ideas. I hope they can work those in as well.


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    a tool holder in that area would be nice

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    I did mention that to Kody too. I think they already had that in the works. I just hope they can work in my ideas for the front deck. I think a center rod locker on the 199 would be sweet.


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    I'd like to have 199 handling in the 211.

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    Quote Originally Posted by btsmbass View Post
    I'd like to have 199 handling in the 211.
    I really feel the 199 is my next boat because on the handling

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    I'm not sure what handling characteristics yall are talking about, but Kody mentioned some hull changes to the 211 that will make it as fast as the 199. I'm sure they don't want to reveal too many details just yet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by utinator View Post
    I'm not sure what handling characteristics yall are talking about, but Kody mentioned some hull changes to the 211 that will make it as fast as the 199. I'm sure they don't want to reveal too many details just yet.
    I talked to Kody at the Richmond show and all I got to say is......sweeeeeeeeeeeet!!!! He can't reveal anything but there are things in the future !!
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    Hey Louis, did he mention anything about making changes to the front deck configuration? I think most people would like my ideas if they ever had that configuration. I'm predicting that the 191 sales will triple if they make the changes I suggested. Personally, I'd prefer the 199 with a center rod locker. That would be sweet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by utinator View Post
    Hey Louis, did he mention anything about making changes to the front deck configuration? I think most people would like my ideas if they ever had that configuration. I'm predicting that the 191 sales will triple if they make the changes I suggested. Personally, I'd prefer the 199 with a center rod locker. That would be sweet.
    My buddy has a center rod locker on his ranger and its sweet. He must fit about 20 to 25 rods....

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    I have the 521vx. The center rod locker holds 12. The port side holds 10. The center rod locker does 2 things for you: 1) it keeps your rods from staying bent (like the side lockers) 2) you don't have to move the rods already on the deck to get another one out or put one away. Also, the consoles don't get in the way of a center rod locker. Every boat should have a center rod locker IMHO.

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    Recently, I've seen boat manufactuers adding center rod lockers to boats that didn't previously have one (don't want to mention names). The problem is, they forget to add tackle storage elsewhere. In a fight for space, you have to give AND take. If you add a center rod locker where tackle storage used to be, you HAVE to add tackle storage somewhere else.

    Since we're talking about it now, here's what I told Kody:

    For the 199:
    1) Turn the center tackle storage into an 8ft rod locker (you can't use rods longer than 8ft in most tournaments). You can extend the deck over the cooler if needed (you already have a cooler under the seats, do you really need one on the deck?).
    2) Now, make the center rod locker several inches wider, to hold 16 rods. (The port and starboard rod lockers don't need to be that wide now)
    3) Make the port rod locker just long enough to hold 7ft rods (10 would be enough).
    4) Take the 1ft leftover space on the port side, and make it usabale for 3700's tackle storage (or a cooler for the cooler addicts )
    5) Take the starboard rod locker, cut about a 18-20" lid into the aft section. Make this aft section the primary tackle storage box. (see pic below)

    Overall, you would get the deck layout of most 21 ft boats. This idea is, of course, inspired by my 521vx. There is no reason why you couldn't make this layout work on a 20 ft boat. You could even make this work on the 191. Actually, it would be even easier on the 191, because it already has a center rod locker!

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    The one problem I see with a center rod locker is now all your tackle is on the side boxes. Every time you need to get to your tackle you risk flopping your rods over board raising the side lids.

    I personally would like to see the split box be on the passenger side. That way you can put your heavy sinker and other heavy tackle there to off set drivers weight when your alone. The n have your lite rods on the driver side.

    I like the center box between the seats. Nice place to step up on the back and hold small items. I heard its gone for a seat.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hickory Legend View Post
    The one problem I see with a center rod locker is now all your tackle is on the side boxes. Every time you need to get to your tackle you risk flopping your rods over board raising the side lids.

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    That's really not an issue. You can see in the above pic, that there is a space between the gunnel and lid. Your rod tips will fit there, and not be flipped over the side. By having storage on both sides, you can even out the weight as you choose. Some people even out the weight by using a co-angler.


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    I guess I'm just different, but I hate a center rod locker. I team fish alot and my partner uses the starboard locker for rods, I use the port, and all my tackle is in the center box, his is in the rear boxes. I'm in and out of the center box for lures far more often than getting rods out during the day. On top of that, if you put you tackle boxes in the rod boxes, they end up under the front deck unless you put some kind of storage system in there and your constantly making sure you don't flip a rod over the side when opening the lid. To each his own I guess.

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    On top of that, if you put you tackle boxes in the rod boxes, they end up under the front deck.
    That would not even be possible. You wouldn't be putting tackle in the port or starboard "rod boxes". Your tackle would go in the tackle storage boxes. Here, look at the 191:
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    You would put your tackle in the storage boxes in front of the driver and passenger consoles. Remember, we're talking about doing this on the 199. They would be completely seperate storage boxes. You would only flip rods off the deck if you had to open the side rod boxes (like you do now). You would never open the side rod boxes if you had a center rod box. You're not going to flip rods off the deck by opening the side tackle storage boxes. You're just gonna have to trust me on this (or fish with someone that has one).


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    utinator,
    How many rods do you have on the deck when fishing???

    With the layout above it would be better with the boxes swapped, Rod locker in front of the driver, tackle boxes in front of the passenger.

    Quote Originally Posted by utinator View Post
    Some people even out the weight by using a co-angler.
    Need co-anglers that dont have weekday jobs, hard to find someone to go during the week!!!!!


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    I usually have 6-8 rods on the deck while fishing. I'll put 3-4 on each side. With the center rod box, I NEVER have to move the rods I already have out. I can even dig through my tackle storage boxes without moving my rods. I'm telling you, this layout is more convenient.

    For the 191, I see what you're saying. Having more tackle on the passenger side would help even out the weight. With my idea, there would be tackle storage on both sides. One side would just have a smaller storage box than the other. If you did this with the 211, both tackle storage boxes could be the same size.


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    Kody didn't go into details as he can't disclose new ideas as they may not make it out this year so until they release it he can't talk about it.
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    So, I may have to wait until 2016?


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    Phoenix and Ranger have some good ideas for center rod storage AND tackle storage. Rods are in the middle and 3700 storage on the left and right. Basscat has some neat ideas for improved usability. definitely good stuff. One thing that I don't like on my is the forward Day box as the plumbing jacks up the rod storage. Never use it.


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