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    Re: My dogs stomach flipped? (JerryT)

    although no expert I have had numerous dogs die from stomach flip. I do think it occurs right after eating. My last Shepard i had I fed him, 10 minutes later he was dead. The stomach itself flips,twisting the intestines causing death. It is not bloat. To me bloat is when the dog eats dry dog food, then drinks water and the dry food expands quickly..
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    <table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by Judd &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">I'll be shocked if anyone posts up they had a dog that survived it. You and your dog are VERY lucky you caught it in time.

    Not all the time but a lots of times it is a result of eating and then some exercise/exertions. </td></tr></table>

    Actually ... it is VERY survivable and the success rate with the surgery is better than 75% if the dog is otherwise healthy and the surgery is performed soon after the stomach twists. This condition is commonly referred to as Bloat, Torsion, or Gastric dilatation-volvulus (GDV). It is caused most of the time not necessarily by exercise, but rather by gulping food and then consuming large amounts of water. Labradors and other large breeds that gulp their food are most susceptible.

    Aftercare if of UTMOST importance. The little guy will have at least one foley catheter in him to drain the incision. You'll have to keep him fairly quiet for as long as the DVM suggests.

    <u>One way to avoid this, either before it happens or as an after treatment, is to feed at least twice daily, and NEVER feed large quantities of food on a once-daily-basis</u>.

    Hope he does well.
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    <table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by Hair Jig &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">

    Actually ... it is VERY survivable and the success rate with the surgery is better than 75% if the dog is otherwise healthy and the surgery is performed soon after the stomach twists. </td></tr></table>

    We are saying the same thing...most don't recognize, aren't home, etc so the vet never gets the opportunity to perform the surgery.

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    Re: (Hair Jig)

    The vets. that I have talk to say that for some reason it occurs in the larger breed dogs, that very few lap dogs suffer from it. Jerry with that horse you have, be concerned and aware.....
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    Re: My dogs stomach flipped? (Tom in Stl)

    Yep, Tom had 2 akitas That had it....One of them had it twice. You will be surprised how quick they are up at it....I pretty sure that they tacked your dogs stomach To the ribs to keep it from happening again, but they can get bloat again it's just that their stomach won't flip next time. You were lucky you caught it..

    Anyway Tom he will be Back to normal long before his fur gets Back

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    I had a Daschund that had it happen a couple of times. The vet said it was unusual in small dogs. I do remember him saying that they usually say it in Labs. He told me that one of the causes was the dog eating too much too fast.

    I think it also helps to raise their bowl up off the floor so the dog is in a more upright eating position.
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    Re: My dogs stomach flipped? (midnytlady)

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    Re: My dogs stomach flipped? (jseasor)

    well I am very familiar with this GDV , my shepard has had it twice, both times I got her to ER and they did surgery, it was almost a yr to the day when it happened again, 1 thing that is very important, make sure you feed your dog the best food you can afford, no fillers (corn) etc. make sure its chicken and or beef as the main ingrediant, the first surgery was 2300 and the 2nd was 3000, they spade her and her spline had to be removed, another thing I do is get her food up off the ground, I use a milk crate, thats suppose to help, I never give her much water after eating, later on I do, I feed her twice a day now, good luck

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    Re: My dogs stomach flipped? (wvbassmaster)

    <table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by wvbassmaster &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">do they know what causes this to happen?</td></tr></table> its when a dog eats, drinks water and the food swells up and causes bloating, thats why its important to use a good dog food

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    Re: My dogs stomach flipped? (Tom in Stl)

    The condition or event is known as "bloat" ,,,the unfortunate part of it is the chance of it happening again after it happens the first time is like 50% or so',, I suggest he eat off of raised dishes from now on so he doesn't have his head way down when eating and keep a watchful eye on him,,,prayers sent

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    Re: My dogs stomach flipped? (Earl320V)

    Bloat has always been described to me as stomach flip...with mostly big dogs I will not allow them to eat unless they have had at least 30 minutes of idle time before and at least an hour after. I read this on a Weimaraner site somewhere a long time ago and it has stuck with me ever sense.


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    Re: My dogs stomach flipped? (Tom in Stl)

    man glad you caught it, that can be bad news in a hurry
    Things are more like right now than they have ever been


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    Re: My dogs stomach flipped? (Tom in Stl)

    Unfortunately I lost my Chocolate Lab to this 4 years ago. My vet said it is quite common in large breed dogs that eat or drink too fast.

    Glad you caught it in time. Did they sew the stomach to the abdomen so it won't flip again?

    for a quick recovery.


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    Re: My dogs stomach flipped? (Tom in Stl)

    Hope your dog makes a full and speedy recovery.

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    The vet always had us keep my Great Danes food elevated when she ate so she would not have this happen. They said having large breed dogs food low can cause it if they eat too fast.

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    I've always been told it happens if they eat and then run and jump around too much afterwards. I've also been told that barrel chested dogs are more likely to get it.



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    This from Pet Insurance 101:

    Stomach flip in dogs is a serious problem, and if not fixed immediately, your dog can actually die from this condition. Dog’s stomachs can twist and rotate, as the stomach is not really attached to anything inside and is not completely stationary. There’s a surgery that can be done, but you have to recognize the signs and symptoms of bloat and stomach twist and act promptly.

    The causes of stomach twist and bloat are not really known. It seems that dogs who have nervous dispositions might be more prone, and large dogs who have more room in their abdomen for the stomach to move also seem to have a higher propensity for this condition. With more room available in the dog’s body, it seems it is easier for the stomach to flip, bringing the spleen with it and closing off the stomach.

    Critical signs of stomach flip:

    1. Your dog begins to vomit suddenly, but nothing comes up.

    2. There is heavy saliva along with the dry heaving.

    3.His general condition starts to deteriorate rapidly

    4.Your dog’s stomach starts to swell and becomes very hard. The size of the stomach can increase dramatically.

    5. There is heavy panting as your pet struggles to breathe. He may lie flat on his chest with outstretched legs to help him breathe easier.

    6. The lining of his eyes and his gums become pale.

    7. Your dog’s pulse is rapid.

    8. He is obviously in great pain and very frightened. He might shut down at this point, and be very listless.

    If you suspect stomach flip and your dog is showing these symptoms, take him to the veterinarian immediately. But what should you do besides rushing him to the vet’s as fast as possible?

    Talk to your dog and reassure him.
    Try to stay calm so as not to frighten him even more. Dogs can sense your emotions, and a calm you means a calmer him.
    Let him choose the position he wants to be in. He knows what makes him feel better.
    Never lift him up by his stomach or under his stomach. The increased pressure could actually cause his stomach and spleen to rupture.
    If possible, when moving him, make sure that the back part of his body is lower than his upper body. This will help to ease his breathing.

    Stomach flip and bloat are very serious conditions, and if your dog is showing these signs and symptoms, take him to the veterinarians as fast as possible. Make sure that your vet knows that stomach flip is a possibility. It doesn’t have to be a life-threatening situation, as long as you act fast and keep calm.

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    Re: My dogs stomach flipped? (Tom in Stl)

    That's so sad!


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    Re: My dogs stomach flipped? (Tom in Stl)

    Glad he is ok, praying for a speedy recovery




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    Glad he is o.k. now for a speedy recovery.

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